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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who do some parents think test scores should be the most important factor in admissions? People here state that some kids do heavy prep (tutors) or are enrolled in academic extracurriculars which can “inflate” scores. My child did 1 practice test at home. Some of the verbal section questions seem knowledge based rather than measuring purely aptitude. Thus skewing towards kids who prep or are UMC. We are UMC but DC couldn’t identify some of the items on the practice verbal section (picture of a microscope and vocabulary that seemed advanced for a 2nd grader like paleontologist, appliance). DC used process of elimination but that only got down to 2 choices. I didn’t think it fair to prep DC on vocabulary just for the test. DC tested high on quantitative and nonverbal but average on verbal on the CogAT similar to the practice test results. CogAT Cumulative score was 137 which was not in pool for our high SES school. DC got in to LIV.

To me, GBRS is a better reflection of the student than a test. 1st grade and 2nd grade teachers speak highly of DC’s motivation, work, and knowledge acquisition (quickly absorbs and comprehends new concepts). For example, DC took the initiative to write 10 chapters for an in-class book assignment when only 3 were required. I haven’t received the AAP submission packet so I can only assume GBRS was high. I don’t have a child in AAP yet but I assume a child who has a poor GBRS despite high test scores wouldn’t be disciplined or driven enough for AAP.

To be clear, I don’t think my child is “gifted.” Based on the acronym Advanced Academic Program, I assume AAP is meant to be accelerated curriculum and not a Gifted program. I also don’t believe being gifted is an indicator of success. I was identified as gifted as a child (high test results / IQ, was in gifted program in a different state) but am no more successful than my spouse who has a strong work ethic but was not identified gifted.[/quote]

I don't think any specific factor should be "the most important factor."  A kid who is academically advanced and has a high GBRS, but low CogAT belongs in AAP.  So does the kid who is academically advanced with high test scores that the teacher doesn't like or get.  Likewise, the kid who has very high test scores and a high GBRS, but is on-grade level rather than being ahead belongs in AAP.  It's absurd to bar any of these kids from accessing an advanced curriculum.

GBRS is pretty arbitrary and can drastically change from year to year.  It shouldn't be used to exclude kids from AAP when they otherwise have the profile of an AAP kid.  [/quote]

I think a cogat of 150+ is generally sure shot with 99% iready even in high ses schools. NNAT 150+ helps but not as much as cogat. Anybody know of exceptions?[/quote]

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