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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line. 
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I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy. [/quote]

Precision of terminology is important. If the term abortion is fully understood in its medical definition then sweeping abortion bans would have to be rewritten. But GOP doesn’t want that.  They like the fear that the imprecision brings along because it makes the law even stricter than what they claim it is. Your procedure was legal, but there are extremists put there who would want to make it illegal.

And if we stopped demonizing the word abortion it wouldn’t matter to people what medical records say. [/quote]

Yes, let’s just kill the unborn and call it “health care.” [/quote]

The "unborn" don't even have souls. What's your problem with a woman removing these soulless creatures from their bodies? [/quote]

also, why do you call humans “creatures?”

They aren’t creatures, they are humans.[/quote]

Until they get a soul, they're not human. Sign of the godless times we live in; thinking you can be human without a soul. Surely, you'll agree that there is something more to being human (something holy!) than simply having biological functions and the correct number of chromosomes. [/quote]

Are you trying to base laws on your spiritual beliefs? [/quote]

God's laws. Not mine. If it were up to me, I'd give fetuses a soul at conception. [/quote]

Damn. I grew up as a Southern Baptist, and I’m pretty sure if I said that at church it would’ve been considered blasphemous, thinking you could do a better job than God. No wonder you think you should control women, you think you know better than God so of course you know better than all the baby mamas. That post really cleared things up for me.

And this is why we can never win with logic against people like this. There is none, and they simultaneously want to use god to control other people and criticize god for not doing a good enough job. [/quote]

What are you talking about? I don't know better than God. If God chooses to give these beings souls at the quickening and not before, it's not up to me to second guess His will. [/quote]
Why would a doctor intervene? If your god wanted Jessa to survive this, certainly he would have expelled the fetus. Otherwise, his will is clearly for her to die along with her unborn child. [/quote]

You're the extremist here. You are the only one arguing against D&C. [/quote]
No, I’m asking why these obvious holes exist in your logic. If only god can take a life, why should Jessa be spared? She is just a vessel, right? Why would a doctor intervene if god’s will is to end her life? I thought God was all knowing. [/quote]

Omnipotence, omniscience, and free will. Pick 2. Having all 3 is a metaphysical impossibility. [/quote]

But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Matthew 19:26

Also, pp who claimed unborn babies have no souls- what actual church teaches that? 
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Aquinas and Augustine knew this eternal fact. Only after the antichrists took over in the 14th century did "the Church" start teaching otherwise. [/quote]

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