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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really don’t understand why it would be wrong for Ukraine to bomb Russia. How would that be the fault of Ukraine? Start a war, you might get bombed. Duh. [/quote]

I don’t think people understand that Russia hasn’t really been trying.

They could grozny the entire country if they really wanted and no the west will not nuke moscow if moscow decides to nuke Kyiv

The Russians are way weaker than the west initially thought but now the opposite has happened

Too many in the west think the Russians weaker than they are.

And no, Russia hasn’t been trying to maximize body count In Ukraine because they haven’t brought out cbrn weapons like they did in Syria

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This is true.  And I don't believe the Russians are weak at all.  But.

The Pandora's box is a very tricky thing to open.  There are so many things that can come out.

There are many many U.S. technologies that, for the sake of Humanity, have been tucked away.  Hidden.

Be very careful what you wish for, my friend.

Bioweapons are just as likely to affect Russians as anyone else, so it's a poor choice.  Chemical weapons are certainly a Russian cup of tea, but they forget that the Ukrainian Army was just as proficient in the Former Soviet Union as the Russians are in that type of warfare.  My guess (at least this is what I would do) is the West has most likely given their weaponry and support on the condition the Ukrainian's doesn't attack Moscow to escalate the war any further than it has already.  I wonder if that restraint would hold true if Russia escalated and used chemical weapons?  As far as radiological weapons go, I think that the Russians are just as vulnerable as the Ukrainians are.  More so, since 80 to 90% of the ethnic Russian population are only in two cities, so that's a bad choice.

That leaves only nuclear weapons.  But Russia needs to be careful if any of the weapons are salted.  As they saw in the Chernobyl accident, there's a bit of nasty fallout and contamination that lingers for years.  Russian bomb shelters won't do squat if the food chain is contaminated as it was in Belarus.

But let's play that game.  Let's say Russian deep cover sleeper agents, Unit 29155, sub-launched hypersonic missiles, satellites, etc. are so super duper that they completely neutralize all Western defenses around the world and Russia does a perfect nuclear first strike with 100% success.  What then?

With all the Russian propaganda washing out common sense, Russians really don't have a sense of cultural relationships - Russian culture is superior to everyone else's after all.  Russians don't understand that if billy-joe's brother is nuked in New York, that billy-joe living in China or India might take offense to that.  This is why Simonyan was on TV talking about how you can be a (dark skinned person, but used a bad word for it, completely oblivious she was actually being insulting) and still be a Russian (although the facial expressions on her guests said it all).  And since so many immigrants have relatives still living abroad (ironically, a concept that Russians were recently introduced to these past two years after the Ukraine War started..), attacking Europe and the U.S. or even former Soviet satellite countries will create even more internal opposition to the Russian Government the more people are killed.

But lets say the Russian Government is willing to take that risk.  They've made their lists of who's naughty and nice and are readying housekeeping to tidy up.  Now comes the other Russian blind spot.  Russians believe that "borders" are a thing.  Russians believe their borders will keep out undesirables; both personnel and radioactive fallout.  They also believe that their nukes are so superior, that no one would dare oppose them.  But can you use a nuke on a terrorist within their own city?  Same goes for supply chain.  If there is no semiconductor factory producing chips to steal, how will you maintain global superiority with only 140 million Russian citizens?  That's only half of the US population, and a tenth of the Chinese or Indian populations.  Russia has three times the population of Ukraine and chewed up it's military dealing just with one country.  Does the Russian Government really believe that nuking the U.S. and Europe won't trigger consequences in India and China?  News flash, Federal Assembly, a lot of rich relatives are picked as UN ambassadors, or like to shop on Rodeo Drive, or like to hang in Vegas, or maybe get cushy ambassador positions in DC, etc.

But I don't believe the Russians can take out the U.S. and Europe in one fell swoop, and given that 80-90% of ethnic Russians are in two cities; I believe it would be unwise for the Russian Government to believe they could survive a nuclear strike intact and carry on their global domination ambitions.

I hope I never find out if I'm right or not.  It's so much fun blogging here, I'd miss it.

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