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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No child left behind REALLY screwed so many kids. It hasn't helped kids avoid being academically left behind. And "least restrictive environment" isn't helpful when the kid is verbally disruptive.  [/quote]
+1 Very rarely will non-teachers admit this. But NCLB/IDEA/FAPE ruined public schools in the US. The Federal Government and Congress like the publicity of “helping everyone” but provided no funding. So then all children suffer.[/quote]

I’m so sick of people claiming there’s “no funding” or “not enough funding” in our schools. Schools in DC spend literally more than $22k per year per kid, average. Some are obviously a lot more. Schools in Florida spend $9k and that’s still high, relatively speaking. Other Western countries spend WAY less than we do in the US. People need to start acknowledging that if an average of $22k/year isn’t enough to get all students meeting a basic grade level standard then money is NOT the problem and more money is NOT the answer.

They can start by getting all the disruptive kids out of our classrooms and back into special facilities that are equipped (no scissors, yes metal detectors, yes guards) and trained (staff with personal defense training plus deescalation techniques etc plus aides floating around) to handle them.

The problem is the students and the parents. Not the schools. Schools don’t need more money or more anything. They need less of the thing that’s destroying them, which is disruptive students.[/quote]

They need more teachers.  And less secretaries, "coaches," administrators, and layers upon layers of useless paper-pushers.[/quote]
We need less IEPs that REQUIRE classroom teachers to spend HOURS per week documenting. [/quote]

I'm not sure what district and school you are in, but when I was teaching in Fairfax classroom teachers did not spend hours documenting for IEPs. The special ed teachers did most of that.  [/quote]
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Its not the documenting. Its the dealing with the disruptive behaviors, the calling out, inability to stand in a line, stay at their desk, stop talking, work without distracting others, etc. That affects the whole class and is exhausting to monitor as a teacher. I'd rather spend my time helping a student struggling academically. [/quote]

Wait, now you nuts want to move the chatty and wiggly kids to a special ed program offsite? You’ve gone over the edge.[/quote]

That’s the thing, right? There are definitely kids who need a different placement, and it’s a shame for everyone that it’s so hard to make that happen. But many many kids can be safely mainstreamed and when people are referring to “disruptive” children lots of this kids are simply calling out too much or needing some additional reminders. But parents of kids who aren’t doing well love to blame other kids- it’s the kid who needs extra reminders to sit still’s fault my kid can’t read! When they probably have no idea how disruptive their own kid is at least some of the time. Kids are also incredibly bad narrators. Some kids really like getting others in trouble. There’s a child like that in my oldest grade. We got a couple calls home over the course of the year always because this child had said my kid did something wrong (not desk throwing, not in that realm) and once I volunteered at the school enough I realized that kid had 3-4 kids they tattled in all.day.long. Not really sure why but it was constant. We told DC to avoid them and no more issues. So who really knows unless you are there.

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