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I’m shocked at how we enroll and keep some kids who have academic and social needs we can’t possibly meet. Often a helper is assigned to one of these kids to try to keep the kid safe while 20 other 6 years old try to ignore yelling and crying and distraction to learn from their teacher. 
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Yeah. I don’t believe in “inclusion”. I don’t think it works for either party.

Also, I feel it was dumped on schools to manage mental health problems of students.

It should be outsourced to medical providers.  Schools should not be involved in behavior therapy, anger management, ADHD management, etc. They can barely do the one job they’re supposed to do - educate.

If Larla bites a teacher, she needs to be suspended, not counseled.[/quote]

Op here. I do believe in inclusion! But not to this degree. We have kids with severe issues and in many cases they are not getting what they need by being mainstreamed even with an aide. And they are severely disrupting the education of 20-24 of their peers. An example from this week is a severely autistic child was having a screaming outburst and a permanent aide and main classroom teacher were sitting with him, and asking him around, talking and giving him choices, asking if he needed to go out for a walk… Meanwhile 23 kids don’t have a teacher and have missed much of their literacy time. In this case perhaps the kid should be mainstreamed with an aide (I don’t know all the details of his IEP), but during prolonged outbursts I think the aide and student should leave the classroom.

In your example of a kid biting… I mean, realistically at the elementary age kids do sometimes bite and kick and hit. I do think consequences should exist and the incidents should be written up, but suspending a 5 year old for biting a classmate doesn’t seem realistic. [/quote]

OP, when I first met with the teacher, she very, very, very carefully (did I say carefully?) explained that she had tried to get the disruptive kid with a dx reassigned but the principal did not support her. The way the system works is the public school system must pay for the student’s private placement, so the school administration desperately tries to avoid this. Often they do it by blaming the teacher. Your best bet is that at least one parent observes what is going on and requests a meeting with you. From there, the parents need to document and force the issue. They need to make the case that their kids are being harmed. [/quote]

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