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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I guess a fire could happen (just as it can happen in a home, on a plane, etc) but that’s really rare in hotels. I think the last US hotel fire of note was in 2006. [/quote]

Fire alarms happen in hotels all the time. I’ve had to evacuate a hotel recently. The siren was EARSPLITTING and it went on for 20 minutes or more. My ears rang for hours afterward. Even if the alarm was false alarm, no way would the kids sleep through it and who knows what the 2 year old would do? Try to leave (as any sane person would to try to escape the noise). There’s no way to lock a kid inside a hotel room and if the kid left the room they could get a long way before the parent could get back from a block away. [/quote]

I think some people on this thread defending the parents have no idea how often fire alarms go off in hotels. PP is right -- it happens frequently, mostly false alarms, but good God, think how a toddler who was alone might react to it. Many a terrible potential outcome--running around looking for the parents in a strange room or suite, maybe trying even to get the infant out of the crib to "help," anything. Not to  mention if the kid got out of the room and ran in panic who knows where. It's incredibly naive for people to shrug and say, an actual fire is "really rare in hotels" like one person here claimed. Real fires may be relatively rare but (1) it only takes the ONE time for your kid to be injured or killed in that rare, real fire. (2) Yes, a fire can happen in your home; but most of us should be able to exit a one-or two-level house, or most apartments other than high-rises, FAR faster than we could exit a multi-story downtown Manhattan hotel. (3) If there's a false fire alarm blaring, the outcome for a frantic child left alone could still be terrible. 
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I don’t think people are defending the parents, just pointing out that [b]the actual risk of harm in this scenario is not huge[/b]. Two different things.[/quote]

Did you even read the post to which you're responding? Beyond the first sentence? It lays out potential ways that "the actual risk of harm" exists in these scenarios, including the scenario where there is no actual fire but a false alarm terrifies a child into behaviors that would end in harm.

Do you also think it's no big deal that two PPs with experience in the hotel industry say many more people have access to your hotel room than most guests realize? Or do you figure there's little harm in that, either? [/quote]

Indeed I did. And I’m rational enough to recognize that kids are at more risk riding in cars, which many of us do on a regular basis, than in either of the hypotheticals put forward.[/quote]

How do you know this? I’d like to see data. Specifically, the risk to a baby and a toddler who are left completely alone for hours in a room in a hotel full of strangers, many of whom have a key to the room and which room cannot be locked from the outside (meaning the 2 year old can leave at any time).  My DC could (and did) open doors at that age. I’m “rational enough” to know that the risk is pretty high. [b]Which is why it’s illegal.[/b]  [/quote]

+1 and why school personnel would report if an older child in the family shared this info[/quote]

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