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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I abandoned my New Year’s resolution to show more empathy for imperialist dictators who invaded neighboring sovereign nations for the purpose of annexing said nation by committing war crimes and genocide by February 24. Try as I might I just can’t get past the indiscriminate murder of men, women and children by targeting apartment buildings, schools, churches, daycares, and homes. Mass rape, torture and the abduction of children as an instrument of war is also a dealbreaker. [/quote]

I think that's what will happen after Russia withdraws from east Ukraine, with reprisals by the Nazi Ukraine battalion.[/quote]
you think Zelensky, a Jew, would be pro-Nazi Ukrainian battalion?

Wow, the pro-Russian stooges are on fire on this thread.[/quote]

Prior to the invasion Ukraine's far-right, Nazi sympathizer, extremist problem was widely acknowledged and discussed in the US sources.  Zelensky was president then, too.  He was a Jew then, too.

It was only after the invasion that Ukraine has overnight transformed from Europe's most corrupt country with a Nazi problem into a brave democracy consumed by yearning for freedom and happiness for all.   [/quote]

Russian bot.[/quote]

Tell Reuters why don't you.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Or NBC.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946[/quote]
ok, but that still doesn't change the fact that Zelensky is a Jew.  You think a Jew would be fine with neoNazis?

We also have neoNazis in the military. Do you think Biden is ok with that? was Trump?[/quote]

I don't know what to tell you but I note you have moved closer toward acknowledging that Neonazis do exist in Ukraine.  Two answers come to mind immediately while the rest are queuing behind:

1)  Zelensky is fine with neoNazis.

2)  NeoNazis don't care if he's fine or not.

2)  Neo [/quote]
I don't think anyone said that neoNazis don't exist in Ukraine. They exist in Russia. They exist in the US.

But, the premise of Putin ridding Ukraine of neoNazis is BS.[/quote]

Why yes indeed, someone did say just that, and called me a Russian bot for saying Ukraine has a neoNazi problem.

Now it looks like the conversation has moved into the phase best described as "don't bother me with your silly facts".[/quote]

Because there is a difference between saying countries have far-right/neoNazi groups, and saying one particular nation has it worse than others. Ukraine is not worse than others and it certainly does not justify a Russian invasion!!!

You are a troll, and we all know it. Please just go away.

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Did anyone say Ukraine has it worse than others? I mean shall we ask Reuters who ran the article on Ukraine and not any other country?

(I take it you DON'T want to be bothered with silly facts? That was a right call too?)

I'm a troll who brought you the news on where that missile came from while you were frothing at the mouth calling for Article 5.[/quote]

PP you just replied to. Actually I've posted numerous times that nations will try to minimize this because whatever it is, it's pretty sure to be an accident. At most, it will trigger article 4.

You need to learn to respond to excitable people without exaggerating your own posts. Stop being a pro-Russian troll whining about neoNazis. Nothing excuses Russian invasion, so discussing white supremacy is off-topic on thread pertaining to the war in Ukraine. Go start your own thread about neoNazis and I'll contribute about the skinheads in my country, France.

Focus on what's likely: it's a Russian missile accidentally sent across the border, or it's a Ukrainian interception of a Russian missile accidentally sent across the border. Neither of which should trigger any sort of militarized NATO response. Eastern Europe will continue to prepare militarily as a show of strength, but Putin has no intention of invading them. All this is for show.

What matters is the question: will Russia run out of missiles before Ukraine's infrastructure collapses completely, or the reverse? That will determine the course of the war, and timing of possible acts of desperation, such as nuclear plant sabotage, tactical weapon, dam explosions, chemical weapon, etc.

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I’m of the view that Putin, who surrounds himself with a bunch of lackeys, believed he could irreparably fracture a weakened NATO alliance with a swift defeat of Ukraine and installing a puppet regime. He soon found out that he had overplayed his hand when his forces could not establish air superiority and the army lacked the logistic infrastructure to move fuel and other supplies to the front lines across a broad expanse with limited roads. Part of his strategic was that Poland would need to reassess its alignment once NATO was more or less neutralized as would the Baltics, with Finland officially remaining non-allied. Now he has been exposed — and doubled down on the annexed areas of Ukraine with a referendum — with an army comprised in part of mobilized civilians armed with rusty rifles and backed up with mothballed 60 year old T62 tanks. The fight is an existential one for Ukraine, and to a lesser degree, NATO insofar as it destabilizes democracy in Europe (if not globally as the result of interrupted grain shipments). Putin won’t intentionally sabotage any nuclear facilities or resort to tactical nuclear or chemical weapons, but it can’t be ruled out in the case of an ascendant player like Prighozhin. Putin is rational snd strategic, albeit not in the sense to which we are accustomed in the West. He capitalizes in weakness and indecisiveness. He learned all-too-quickly that Biden was neither weak nor indecisive. Biden is no Trump. And Boris was already standing on shaky ground. He was able to assess Macron and Scholz pretty accurately. He’s now trapped, having lost the Kerch Strait Bridge, and desperately hoping to defend critical rail supply lines to Crimea before the full onset of winter. Perhaps he envisions another siege of Stalingrad from which he magically arises victorious? That necessarily has to be his focus, including preserving as much of his military equipment and conscripted professional warfighters such as Spetsnaz and Marines. In the meantime, he needs to solve the problem of mobilizing industry and obtaining critical components for modern weapons and combinations systems from the likes of India and China. [/quote]

LOL an hour ago you were of the view that Putin is attacking NATO! Start Article 5!

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Please enlighten us all as to Article 5 is “started.” Not even Poland has determined that the missile originated from territory under Russian control. But have yourself a good laugh if that’s the weird way you like to roll. Nothing is definitive in the fog of war when, as I posted earlier, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine all use essentially the same decades-old weapons systems. And yet the Putin apologists are wailing and rending garments about the imminent onset of WWIII. [/quote]

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