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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.[/quote]

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.[/quote]

Anyone who wants their kid in AAP with a few $$$ can make that happen. I don't see the problem.[/quote]

It wasn't that bad getting our kid into AAP with the private tests and appeals, but TJ takes a lot more prep classes and $$$.

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Some on here wants to keep that a secret.[/quote]

What secret? AAP has an appeals process in which the Committee looks at other material, like WISC test results, to assess whether the original decision was the right one or not. Some students are admitted on appeal; some aren't.
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After your kid is rejected, all you need to do is get some quack to readminister the WISC and then appeal, and  Bob's your uncle.[/quote]

If only that were true, AAP would be a much larger size, especially in high SES areas. Parents of kids who don't get in love to blame it on this myth that we all know is false.[/quote]
so you agree that the program is not representative of the brightest kids?[/quote]

DP.  That didn't at all flow from what PP said.  Anyway, for the most part, AAP is representative of the brightest kids.  For a kid to be left out of AAP, they would have needed an unimpressive score on the CogAT and NNAT, which are nationally normed on an un-prepped population.  Basically, any kid who is truly gifted should score in the top 2% without prep.  Then, the kid would also have to fail to impress any of the teachers in 2nd-6th grade, considering that teachers can and do refer kids that they think belong in AAP, especially if the kid is FARMS, a URM, or otherwise unlikely to be referred by parents.

Some kids who are pretty average are getting in.  Those kids still would have needed to impress their teachers and have strong work samples, since both of those are much more important than test scores.  They're not getting in from affluent parents buying a high WISC score, since few if any psychologists would risk their license by giving out bogus scores, and even if they did, the WISC is barely considered anymore.  They're most likely getting in because they're friendly, good students with neat work that the teachers tend to love having in class, even if they're not otherwise remarkable in any way.   There is undoubtedly a large overlap between the bottom half of AAP and the top 10% of gen ed.  There is no selection system that would avoid this issue.  [/quote]

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