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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] For the white folks - do you not understand that this is what happened for your people a generation ago except the government fully paid for it? Y'all remain super supportive (or forgetful/willfully ignorant) of any handout that white people receive.

Have you heard of the GI Bill? Let's talk some numbers to help put this into perspective. There were ~16mil WW2 vets. 1mill were black, we will subtract them out, since they were denied GI benefits. So, we are left with around 15mil white male veterans (less the 350k women vets). Using 1950 census data: there were 150mil Americans total. ~135mil whites and ~15mil "nonwhites" (term used in census reports at the time). Of the 135mil white Americans in 1950, ~67mil were men. So, around 22% of white men were WW2 vets. [/quote]

What a load of absolute bs. The GI bill was not and is not a handout. In order to obtain it, you had to serve your country for years. This is in no way comparable to “give kids a leg up because their skin is brown or black.” If you want to create a program in which blacks and Hispanics received educational benefits in exchange for four years of national service, great, let’s have that. But don’t pretend giving people a diversity advantage in college applicants is just like the GI bill, because that’s utter crap.[/quote]

NP: you missed the part where Black veterans got nothing from the GI Bill. Do you think that was fair? Do you think white veterans didn’t benefit from their service?[/quote]

That didn't make it a "handout" to whites. They had to earn it. The white servicemen weren't just handed the benefit for being white - they had to [b]serve [/b]in order to get the benefit.

Reminder: most US military casualties in WWII were white men. Blacks overwhelmingly served in rear-area support units. Out of 405,399 US military deaths in WW2, only 708 were African American (0.17%). Do you think that was fair? Do you still think white servicemen were unfairly rewarded?[/quote]

NP. Yes, as black servicemen were ineligible and also served, some on the front lines. Would you discriminate against white servicemen because of the nature of their service?

Also,  note that I refer to them as black servicemen, not "blacks." Look back at the way you refer to the two sets of men. It seems to reveal a bias here.[/quote]

If you think whites were unfairly rewarded for their military service, you are the one who is biased.

If you think whites got a handout for serving in WW2, you are amazingly stupid.
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The fact that some blacks were denied what they'd earned does not make it unfair that whites were given what they'd earned.[/b][/quote]

NP. That is the definition of "unfair." And no one is suggesting white servicemen shouldn't have been rewarded; the point was that black servicemen never received those same rewards, and that inequity needs to be acknowledged.[/quote]

What pp is trying to tell you is that the unfairness is that black people were omitted. That is the wrong thing. NOT that whites were allowed to use the program. [/quote]

So you’re saying the program was fair for white people? I don’t think that meets the definition of fair.[/quote]

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