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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC - 3.975 GPA unweighted at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology (one B). Presidential scholar candidate. 36 ACT single sitting. National science award winner.  1st tier ECs. DC Scholastic writing award winner.

White. Full pay.

Rejected at all Ivy schools to which DC applied.

Ridiculous.

If you are not a URM it’s pretty hard out there.[/quote]

If you had left the URM out of your comment, I would have just scrolled on by. Since you did, why don’t you do this? Put 100 pennies on your kitchen table.  Put five pennies to the side. That is the general acceptance rate at the ivies this year. Think about the list of D-1 sports the ivies have.  Think about the spots for the ultra wealthy’s and staff children.  Think about the millions of high school students.  Just being really good at school may not get a kid one of those spots. Stop blaming people of color. Stop.

I think it takes a lot of skill and talent be a top/recruited athlete. Also, there is a lot of risk in the endeavor and it is a hard, long road.  And many of those athletes have the same stats as your child.

Further, your child is a superstar and will do well at college and be happy.

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I’m not the only one who feels this way.   I don’t think recruited athlete should get a break either.  And I am not “blaming” URMs. I am blaming the Ivy league. There is a difference.[/quote]

The entitled arrogance in your opinion is laughable

Legacies and recruited athletes are literally part of the fabric of what an Ivy League college is all about

If you don't like it there's nothing stopping you from considering other colleges, there are literally thousands of colleges in this world that select students solely based on academics, there are a lot of colleges in this world where you can take an entrance test and get selected based solely on your score, but the Ivies are not among this group and never will be

But to think that the Ivies should change their tried and true methodologies that have worked for them for centuries simply because your kid does not fit the mold of what Ivies are looking for is delusional

If you buy a Tesla you inherently have bought into e-vehicles, don't buy a Tesla and complain that you want them to change it to a gas powered car
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Wow. Harsh.  [/quote]

I’m going to weigh in here. I’m not sure how many of the posters here actually went to an Ivy League school but I did. Arguably the mist prestigious one. “Tried and true for centuries?” The Ivy leagues used to openly discriminate against Jewish people. That was a horrible era. That’s why Jonas Salk didn’t get into Yale medical school.  And they did it for the same rationale given for discriminating against Asian-Americans. The ivy league (which is actually a football conference) is hardly infallible.  [/quote]

I attended an "elite" ivy as well

Discrimination is part of the ivy program, most ivies were founded with an affiliation to protestant/methodist/presbyterian heritage

It used to be that white anglo protestants discriminated against catholics but they became eventually integrated

Then the discrimination turned to the jews and same story they became a big part of what ivies are about

Today the discrimination is directed towards asian americans, but just as the jews overcame the discrimination through a combination of outworking and often just being better/more talented than their predecessors, the same is happening with asian americans

Being a citizen of the US is a contact sport, its meritocratic, but it takes grit and determination to succeed and like it or not the discrimination component is part of the ivies

The next few years will be very telling with how the government/supreme court will weigh in on how/if they should regulate this part of the ivy tradition
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