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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wonder what percent of each group take private math courses?  I suspect the taking of private math courses correlates far more with 5s than does race.  [/quote]

You may be right, but not sure that matters. They're ignoring the details of the process like local morning which explains the delta that they're pointing to as evidence of rigging. I think they're just heavily vested in this narrative and are in heavy denial of reality.[/quote]

Doesn't make the data wrong. PP just presented the data and it is pretty clear it disadvantages and penalizes a particular racial minority group for good performance. I don't think it is fair but I am not particularly bothered by it. Eventually work doesn't go waste.  Just have the grace though to accept the facts. It is obvious what's happening here - could be because of local mooring which happened for a reason. [/quote]

The reason for local norming is a nationwide shift towards policies that reward the top percentile students based on their home school, not their entire district. It's a sea change, it's everywhere.[/quote]

And it seems much more fair than simply handing out seats at these programs to the children of people whose kids attend prep. It seems more fair to reward actual talent which is distributed evenly if opportunities aren't. [/quote]
Nothing was handed out.  Those kids earned those spots by proving they could do the work.  Under the new system, MCPS is hoping that kids who haven't proven anything can do the work.  Hint: they can't.  This is a race to the bottom.[/quote]

I think the problem is that allocating magnet seats for 9 year olds, or 11 year olds, based on whether their families had the resources to expose them to the material ALREADY so that they could "prove" that they could "do the work" is simply perpetuating inequality.

I don't want to be part of a society that determines that kids do not deserve enrichment and acceleration if they have not already received that enrichment from the private sector before they hit 4th grade. [/quote]
So you prefer living in a society that pretends that below-average kids who have never proven themselves are above average?  Do you want one of them performing heart surgery on you some day or would you prefer the person who proved their qualifications?  You wokes pretend that all kids are exactly equal and that the only difference is prep/no prep which is woke lunacy.[/quote]

No I want to be part of a society where the somewhat below average kid who can afford prep classes can test as gifted and take the spot of an actual gifted kid who can't afford prep classes.[/quote]
But you don't know that the later is gifted because they don't score in the gifted range.  They score in the average range and you wokes take the leap of faith that they 2ould score high of they were only given the chance.

As for the former, again, you wokes only assume that theres no talent there.  That's like saying Tom Brady is only great because he practices a lot, not because of his talent.  Hint: it's both.[/quote]

Actually they do but with all the inflated scores of the less gifted preppers they get drowned out. There just aren't enough seats.[/quote]
They don't.  They're letting some kids in the ghetto schools into the program with an 85%.  That's average.[/quote]

So CCES is a ghetto school now? [/quote]

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