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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just between us gals, if he was another race, do you think the results would have been different?[/quote]

No he had bad ECs.  You need to do more than school activities if you want a spot. His profile was not interesting to top schools which is why he was shut out.  He was a regular smart kids who was a good test taker.[/quote]

didn't he play an instrument for 10 years? that is hardly nothing.

also these comments that the rest of his application must have been lacking are so dumb. a kid that bright knows how to play the game.[/quote]

[b]Its THING. kids who get NOin play an instrument at a [b]national or regional level[/b].  [/b]No one cares some old lady came to your house and taught you violin or you went to a local music shop.  Ivies want violinist who can play for symphonies and athletes who can play on their teams (travel and national players).  A high school varsity player probably can't even make an intramural team!  So now the kid is trying to get in based on original creation (not published in a regional or national publication) (not creating any sort of great community good or performance) or original thought ( has not discovered anything0.  For stem you are competing against intel scholars, kids coding for tech start ups and the like. Again he was a smart regular kid according to his video. Many kids with the same stats have done more and those are the ones that get in-- they have had an impact on the wider community.[/quote]

This.
Same goes for any kind of EC. No one cares if you played recreational tennis, or fenced, or sang in a school choir in middle schools. For those elite institutions you either have to be a superlegacy, an URM -- or a real achiever in something other that SATs.

Personally, I think it's pretty f--d up,, since, at the end of the day, colleges, even the most elite ones, are institutions of higher learning, not the Olympic games. And in any kind of educational setting, a kid who spent all their time and energy on studying English/math/history will have a leg up over a kid who spent his time practicing fencing, just to get into an elite college. And this is pretty much the only place in the world that does college admissions like that. Everywhere else it's the EDUCATIONAL achievement that counts.[/quote]

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