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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where are all these nice guys who can’t get a girl to look at them?

Off of the top of my head, I can think of five single, attractive women in their late twenties who are smart, funny, and have good jobs.  But I can’t think of anyone to set them up with.  [/quote]

This comes up more often in the teen and early 20s. How the red pill folks describe it, this is when women have the most options, are acting on attraction (rather than other motives), and are most interested in sex. The guys they pick at this period in their lives reflect what they truly find attractive in men. [/quote]

So, if a woman in her late twenties is interested in you, but you don’t think she would have been 5-10 years earlier when she had more options (based on YOUR idea of what 22 year old girls are interested in), then you conclude that she doesn’t *really* find you attractive?

This all sounds to me like you are trying to use women to prove something to yourself about what kind of man you are.  Like, “if a woman with a lot of options chooses me, then I must be good enough.*”

*(...and my mom was wrong.)

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I think this captures it. A lot of the dysfunction of Red Pill adherents is rooted in insecurity and trying to measure self-worth by the perceived attractiveness and number of women they can have sex with. And it's not the approval of these women they're seeking, particularly, to measure their self-worth. Rather, it's how impressed they think other guys will be by these sexual conquests. [/quote]

And yet it moves.  [/quote]

I mean, there's that too -- whatever these guy's motivations for wanting to have sex with hot 20 somethings, the fact remains that trying to act and look more like Chad Thundercock makes it more likely (than whatever they were doing before they found the Red Pill) that they'll end up having sex with these young women. [/quote]

But the point is, you don't need red pill dogma to work out, eat right and present yourself well. You can get that from Men's Health or Esquire without the secret sauce of women-hating.[/quote]

I tell men to lift weights for free and without even having to buy a magazine. They generally don't listen, though. I would suggest that not doing things to make yourself more attractive is generally not from lack of understanding what's attractive. [/quote]

So you agree it's not the health tips that draw men to red pill.[/quote]

Yes!!! Seriously for all this "never listen to women about dating advice", I've been telling dudes to lift since before there was redpill, and I have to say no one was exactly subscribing to my newsletter. [/quote]

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