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Exactly. As for “assigned at birth,” this makes it sound like doctors arbitrarily pick someone’s gender. No, they don’t assign a “gender” at all. They observe the newborn’s biological sex and record it.  The push for this new language denies science & facts. We can be respectful of all types of people without doing that.

Regarding the “deadname” article— that stance is ridiculous. Continuing to call someone by a name they don’t prefer is rude. But mentioning what someone used to be called for informational purposes should be a non-issue. People change their names for all sorts of reasons— marriage, divorce, adoption, Prince, etc. I’ve never heard any of these other groups get upset about the mere mention of their former name. [/quote]

You're being deliberately disingenuous. You say they don't assign a "gender" but rather "observe a newborn's biological sex and record it."  Why didn't you use the word gender in the second sentence as well?  You know that gender and sex are not the same thing as demonstrated in your own language choices.

And for your commentary on the deadname article, again, you're being dismissive just to be smug. No one is getting upset "about the [b]mere[/b] mention of their former name."  It's not simply about "mentioning what someone used to be called for informational purposes."  It's about continuing to use a former name as a way to not recognize and diminish the significance of the person's transition and new name.

You understand all the "new language" as you call it but because you have problems with the people using it you cloak your bigotry in a sanctimonious criticism of the nuances of the language. [/quote]

No, that article stated that there is NEVER a reason for a news agency to publish a trans person’s former name— at all. Not even once. Did you read the article?
And no one is “assigning” gender because it is a social construct. There is no official document about someone’s gender, at birth or otherwise. The birth certificate states biological sex. So do forms asking for “male” or “female.”  They are asking about biological sex. Gender is different, right?[/quote]

Here’s the quote:  
“ “Reminder: there is NEVER a reason to publish someone’s deadname,” the Transgender Journalist Association said in a statement on Twitter”[/quote]

Which is absurd.  Using Page as an example, how would he ever refer to his entire prior life as Ellen?  Are his parents simply instructed to forget Ellen ever existed?  I have nothing against the trans community, but this sort of nonsense is exactly why they receive pushback and questions.  It’s as if the previous person is to be erased.  “Deadname” says it all.   :roll: [/quote]

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