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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard
Yale, Stanford
MIT
rest of the Ivies
Duke
Chicago

Nobody really gives a damn about Hopkins, Northwestern, Vandy, etc. at the undergraduate level. Everyone knows status-obsessed families outside of the Ivy Plus schools were rejected from all of them. Not cream of the crop.[/quote]

+1. Only striver mediocrities obsess over this crap. The elites will always be elite.[/quote]

The undisputed elites:

Harvard, Stanford
Yale, MIT
Princeton

The rest are pretenders needing ED contracts to boost their yield.[/quote]

Based on what?

Rice, Caltech, Ga tech, and Harvey Mudd are wayyyy better schools than Princeton, Yale or Harvard for things like engineering.   Harvard and Yale are great for getting inflated grades in useless fields that are paths to become a consultant or lawyer who gets paid big bucks to outsource jobs or ruin the country later as a politician, hedge fund manager, corporate lobbyist, or some other sell out who ships jobs overseas.  [/quote]

Harvard has about 50% of undergraduates majoring in STEM fields.  I'm betting you didn't know that.  [/quote]

Harvard Degrees Conferred per CDS 2019:
Natural Resources and Conservation - 1%
Area, Ethnic, and Gender Studies - 2%
Computer and Information Science - 9%
Engineering - 5%
Foreign Languages - 3%
English - 3%
Biological/Life Sciences - 14%
Mathematics & Statistics - 11%
Philosophy and Religious - 2%
Physical Sciences - 5%
Psychology - 5%
Social Sciences - 28%
Visual and Performing Arts - 3%
History - 9%[/quote]

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