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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Would a URM with H degree make a dent in the job market or in the wider world? Probably not. There’s a PP who said even Harvard Law disses H grads bc its watered-down degree doesn’t mean much." I'm the PP and this is NOT what I said. [b]The URM admits tend to be fantastic. And they tend to be successful later.[/b] But there are not enough slots to admit even close to everyone with excellent stats, so plenty of colleges--not just HYP--end up with HYP caliber students. Later, when places like Harvard Law consider applications, they end up taking plenty of super smart applicants who did not go to (and often were rejected by) HYP for college. [/quote] Aha we have the poster ladies and gentlemen, who makes these sweeping pronouncements with zero data or evidence to back it up. She makes shit up all the time. Shit she would love to be true and may well be true but she doesn't actually know anything about. You're such a time waster you should leave the college forum to people who know what they're actually discussing.[/quote] We are overwhelmed by the facts and evidence you included in your post. [/quote] PP is not arguing data. S/he is arguing logic. One poster clearly stated HYY degrees are overrated. Harvard knows the quality of its degrees. It knows it’s been watered down by legacies, donors, sports recruits, URMs... [/quote] It’s not restricted to Harvard then. Every college has “watered” down their curriculum thanks to legacies, sports recruits and URM according to your theory. [/quote] Nevermind that class profiles have steadily improved in the 21st century at these institutions.[/quote] Exactly! These schools haven't "watered down" their curriculums! Back in the good old days, it was easier to be admitted and connections, money and having the right pedigree were even more important for admissions. We won't even go into how many of these schools were not open to women either until the 1970s or so.[/quote] If they aren't watered down, how do you explain the fact that Harvard law really doesn't give a hoot about HYP grads when they select their class? [/quote] I wouldn't characterize it as not giving a hoot. I would say that they pick from many schools. Many more students are going to college and law school now than 50 or even 30 years ago. More top schools are open to women, minorities, international students - and students from all those places are applying to Harvard law. Why should they only take their students when they can also take top international students and when the caliber of top students from the top SLACs is excellent? [/quote] HYP students’ struggling against top international and SLACs students is given. What you are leaving out is the fact that HYP students also lose to Podunk University graduates. https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/undergraduate-colleges/ [/quote]
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