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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We should not be destroying so many livelihoods for this. Anyone who wishes to is free to stay home as long as they’d like. Others need to be free to earn a living. Nursing home residents should not drive public policy. [/quote]

Where do people like you come from? What went wrong growing up? [/quote]

I'll take a stab at this - I am not the above poster nor do I agree with her.  The sentiment comes from a place of FEAR.  Fear that they will quickly fall into poverty or lack food or health care because they cannot work.  Or fear that they will have to support others who will quickly fall into poverty, lack food or health care because they cannot work.  Our country, for better and for worse, has been based on the fallacy that an individual can do anything if he just works hard enough and the government gets out of the way - and that's been the overriding philosophy of the conservative movement of the last 30-40 years. Many of our social needs are met through the companies we work for - like health care, money for food, child care.  In the last forty years, the conservative movement has been trying to shrink government to get out of education, innovation, and public health as well - preferring to leave it up to private industry.  Now that we are seeing the fruits of that labor.  We are now in a situation where government is needed and individuals cannot just work their way out of it, so people who have this philosophy are left with nothing to fall back on, thus  they argue for getting back to work instead of reasonable social safety nets and programs to support the country during a time of unimaginable crisis because it is all that they know to do.  They don't want to ignore the elderly, the infirm, the other - but they fear so much becoming them, that they are desperate to argue in favor of policies that have the effect of ignoring them.[/quote]

Or maybe it’s a totally rational thought. There are literally 2 mile food lines in South Africa right now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/30/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-UHX22A2N25HVPN7UKRICN4SQ7U
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I did not say it was irrational fear.  If the leaders in our country continue with this philosophy, there is a likelihood that food lines, poverty, etc. will come to pass.  It doesn't have to happen that way - there is no need for it to happen that way, but for the fact that our political leaders believe that any social support breeds laziness and thus people should work until they die (quite literally) for anything that they might need despite the fact that [b]we have enough wealth[/b] in the country to pull everyone through and get to the other side without requiring people to needlessly put themselves in harms way to do so.[/quote]

This is where you are misinformed. This country does not have enough wealth. Over $20 trillion in debt. The government is not, nor never ever has been, equipped to provide every need for every citizen. We must get back to work. [/quote]

The government needs to requisition money from the top 1%. If this is war time, and Trump can force minimum wage workers back into a meat packing plant where coworkers are getting sick and dying, then he can take those assets. That way only the top 1% would have lifestyles that would be drastically altered and the rest of us can survive. Such is life, top 1%-ers. Did you think it would last forever?[/quote]

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