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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I sure miss the days when conservatives pretended to be compassionate.[/quote] We REALLY miss the days when liberals believed in supporting our immigration laws. And, that wasn't too long ago. I could post clip after clip of video of Obama, Schumer, and even HRC discussing how our borders must be enforced and our border policies must be adhered to. Guess this is an attempt by the Democrats to import more future voters since they can't seem to get them the legal way. And, BTW - we are compassionate. And, we also believe in the rule of law. As long as these people enter illegally and stay when they have been ordered to leave, we are less able to support more immigrants who choose to come the legal way and abide by our laws. [/quote] You are full of sh*t. Was Mike Pence compassionate as he crossed his arms and refused to acknowledge the men in cages at the border? Waere Lindsey Graham or Mike Lee? Is separating kids from their parents— and then losing the parents— compassionate? How about jamming kids in cages meant to hold 1/3 of occupants. With no showers or cots. 24 hour light and sleep if you can on the concrete floor. Conditions we don’t impose of murderers in the Us criminal justice system. Is making young teens taking care of sick babies who don’t get clean diapers compassionate? Telling women to drink out of the toilet? Do compassionate people stand up in Court and argue that safe and sanitary conditions for children do not include soap and a toothbrush? Do compassionate federal government officials run secret FB groups making fun of dead migrant toddlers. You don’t seem to get it. Liberals are not upset that immigration laws are being enforced. They are upset that they are being enforced in the cruelest, most inhumane and most dangerous manner imaginable. That this Administration literally looked at their immigration procedures and said— deporting and enforcing the law isn’t enough. What can we do to make human beings suffer to the greatest extent possible? That this administration is going out of its way to house children in unsafe, unclean and dangerous conditions to punish their parents. You can enforce the law without unnecessary and gratuitous cruelty. But then what would Stephen Miller have to jerk off to? I never thought I would see the rise of the Christian Left. But, here we are. [/quote] You are completely unhinged. Who bought beds to send to the centers for the children? The Trump administration. Who protested sending the beds to the centers, simply because Trump's name was attached? Liberals. NO ONE has yet answered the question that has been posed again and again: WHERE DO YOU SUGGEST THESE IMMIGRANTS GO?? The facilities they are being housed in weren't built for such huge capacities. So what's your solution? Why are none of you answering this question, but continuing to go off on the administration - even though these immigrants are coming here willing and of their own volition? Again: WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO GO?[/quote] It’s a big country. With very low unemployment. And not full. We find a permanent, legal, status for DACA kids that includes a pathway to citizenship We find a permanent, legal status for people who have been here a certain length of time, say ten years, can pass an English and civics tests, and have never been convicted of a crime. They get the equivalent of a green card, renewable every 5 years, so long as they are self supporting and don’t commit any crimes. They pay into social security, and get retirement out, but at half the rate than American citizens. They can enter the diversity lottery while in the US. But unless they make it to the front of the line, they are never eligible for citizenship. We do a massive hiring of immigration judges. And attorneys/ law clerks/ decision writers and paralegals to support them. And we allow them to hold tele-hearings, so we can get competent mid career people who don’t want to move to the border. We place a very high priority on streamlining cases and clearing the backlog. We get processing times down to weeks or months, instead of years. We allow,one continuance only, to get documents or get a lawyer. After that, we hold the hearing. We pay EAJA fees to lawyers who represent immigrants who make SUCCESSFUL asylum claims. Having a lawyer involved speeds up the process enormously, makes it much easier to get paperwork, and takes a lot of the burden off the judges. We don’t detain families— or anyone— for longer than it takes to process their asylum claims, unless we have reason to believe they are dangerous. Or the children are in danger. We release the, into the community, with electronic monitoring of the adults aif necessary. We also give them work visas that must be renewed in person every 3 months. They pay into social security and get nothing out unless their asylum claim is granted. Their residences are spot checked, and if they move without telling immigration, they lose the work visa. We allow them to buy at least catastrophic medical insurance. People who lose an asylum claim are promptly deported. If they come back, they have no right to do through the asylum process again. They get one expedited hearing with a Judge prior to being released to demonstrate that something significant has changed. If they can’t, they are immediately deported. They don’t get a third chance. We treat the people we hold at least as well American prisoners. A cot, even if they are sharing a sleeping space with a couple dozen men. 3 meals a day (even if they are powdered eggs), a toothbrush, a couple showers a week, clean jumpsuits on a regular basis, emergency medical,care and an hour our of rec time each day. We require them to work 8 hours a day. We permit them to take classes in English and civics. We hold CPB and ICE to the same standards as every other federal employee. They treat people with respect, they cut it out with the secret Facebook groups, they stop intentionally degrading behavior towards immigrants. Or the lose their jobs. We treat visa overstays and birth tourism as problems that are as severe as illegal border crossings, because numerically, they are. We make e-verify mandatory. We invest in 21 st century technology to prevent illegal crossings. Drones with heat sensing technology. Virtual fencing. But, no wall. So. Now I have answered your question. This is WHERE I SUGGEST THE IMMIGRANTS GO. But Repubics would hate it, because it’s not punitive enough. Any more questions? [/quote]
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