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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Problem with lower COL areas is that the job market is not as robust. Yes, "everybody" know someone who moved to Cleveland/Detroit/Milwaukee and found a good position and cheap housing but there is nowhere near the opportunities found in growing areas. Also, lower COL places tend to be insular. You are competing with people who went to local schools, married someone from there, and will never leave there. They pick their own when an opening occurs.[/quote]

That's ...wrong on just about every level. Dallas and Houston are the same size as DC, with an even better economy, record low unemployment rate and much better COL. I've lived in both and wouldn't describe either as "insular." People are pouring in from other states. And the idea a company like Toyota or AT&T is picking executives based on the neighborhood they grew up in, that's just ludicrous. [/quote]

SInce when are Dallas and Houston = Cleveland/Detroit/Milwaukee?

Dallas and Houston have incredible economies but are very hot and 100% sprawl.  No charm, history, or walkability.  [/quote]

Yeah right. Dallas has Deep Ellum, Bishop Arts, Lower Greenville, Uptown ...areas with as much walkability as anything you'll find in the District. And several have a funkier vibe than the 
manufactured cool of many gentrifying DC neighborhoods. And yeah ...it's hot. But you can also sit outside on the patio in February and don't have to dig out from a blizzard every other year.  [/quote]

You've named areas in Dallas that are much like Atlanta's Five Points/Virginia Highlands -- highly industrialized with a glut of retail/restaurants in one place but they aren't walkable [i]communities[/i] with mixed-use density that including housing and amenities artfully imposed together. Basically those are the places you take an Uber to to bar hop for happy hour but you don't live on that street or next to that restaurant nor can you walk to those grocery stores (not unless you want to cross a parking lot which can fit a couple 100 cars easily first). In other words, the Whole Foods is in a shopping plaza.

Huge difference. Basically living there is nothing like D.C.[/quote]

+1000000.   PP obviously has never lived in a real city.  Five points in Atlanta is a perfect example.  You may be able to walk to bars and restaurants from your house.  But on a daily basis walk to work, walk your kids to school and run 90% of your errands on foot?  No way.  Especially given the hot weather.  Dallas is a city built around the automobile.  Even in the areas in Dallas claiming to be walkable, the parking lots are HUGE which in itself demonstrates it’s not really a walkable area.

Whereas I live in DC and almost always walk to the grocery store, combo walk and bus to work, and only use my car on the weekend for an errand or going somewhere outside of DC.   I can’t imagine many families in Dallas are only using their cars on the weekend.

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Meh. You still live in DC, which is full of boring people who are bland AF.[/quote]

As opposed to whom?  Do you live in NY or LA, perhaps?

My DC neighbors work in a variety of pretty interesting professions.  I assume you’re thinking everyone’s a fed, but on my block, there are people in medicine, finance, research, education, a museum director, etc.  Really runs the gamut.[/quote]

I live in a small city outside of DC and it's the same as in my neighborhood.

Stay in DC if you want to but you're being ridiculous if you think the "quality" of DC people is better than anywhere else. Lots of places have interesting people in them. No, not Supreme Court justices - that is unique to DC - but people who work in all these intellectual and creative fields. [b]Many interesting people have left high cost cities, in fact, because it's too hard to keep yourself going in one of the more interesting professions[/b]. One reason my smaller city has such a good restaurant scene is that it's affordable enough that chefs can come experiment here. We have a great arts scene for largely the same reason. We have tons of writers here. (I am one of them.)

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You keep think this is true, but it’s not.  Most of the talent and intellect in this country is located in big cities.  Sad, but true.  [/quote]

All of you are so ignorant

Google where the Fortune 500 companies are I'll wait

Here you go

New York	NY	42
Houston	TX	24
Dallas	TX	12
Atlanta	GA	10
Minneapolis	MN	10
Chicago	IL	9
St. Louis	MO	8
San Francisco	CA	7
Charlotte	NC	6
Cincinnati	OH	6
Columbus	OH	6
Milwaukee	WI	6
Englewood	CO	5
Irving	TX	5
Los Angeles	CA	5
Omaha	NE	5
Philadelphia	PA	5
Pittsburgh	PA	5
Richmond	VA	5

All of these places are great places to live and in many you can be just as successful for half the cost or more vs DC

It's disturbing to me that anyone that isn't a liberal progressive is somehow less than for many of you.

That's a common knock on democrats in general.  Yall need to work on that.

DC is the only place in the country that is so imbalanced politically yall need to get out of your bubbles[/quote]

Only someone from a flyover city would actually think being a Fortune 500 company means something.  It doesn’t.  Working for a Fortune 500 company is the dream for someone in Dallas.

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LOL, as opposed to what? The "policy analyst" in DC? [/quote]

No. Perhaps:

Private equity
Hedge fund
Medical doctor
Think tank
Lobbyist 
Research scientist 
Entertainment industry 
Attorney

I could go on...look, a Fortune 500 company is great if you live in Minneapolis.  But it’s not where someone living in dc, ny, la etc aspires to work. 
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you really are insufferable you realize you can do most of those jobs in almost any place in the US with say at least 100,000 people.  And that was my point people think the only good jobs are in the 5 most expensive metro areas.  News Flash they aren't

and to the AA woman.  Y[b]ou are an ignorant bigot if you want to be surrounded by people that are exactly like you.  So much for diversity..... racist[/b][/quote]

As an AA, it is in no way racist to want to be around people who think like I do. For you to bring racism into this tells me something about you. AAs have learned to protect ourselves and it is how we have existed in this country. Protecting ourselves. Housing policy was made in this country to discriminate against us. Don't blame us for the results of it![/quote]

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