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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For those who keep saying his son would have been admitted anyway, you should look at the statistics for Asian students who are accepted and rejected by Harvard.  Having close to a 4.0 gpa and near-perfect SATs might guarantee acceptance for some ethnicities, but not for Asians.  
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*1000. I know of an Asian TJ grad with perfect gpa (4.0 unweighted which is extremely tough at TJ and probably top 1%  and around 4.6 weighted), 2,390 SAT, Presidential Scholar nominee, NM Scholar, ton of leadership positions, lot of volunteering, extensive research, prestigious internship over the summer, TV show appearance, scholastic writing award, chemistry Olympiad finals, etc. etc. [b]and was rejected by Harvard due to no legacy, no connection, no donation, seeking financial aid (not full pay) etc.[/b]  Completely rigged.   [/quote]

Wait a minute. How do you know it was due to that? [/quote]

Because there were other grads who gained admissions (with significantly lower stats openly talking about their "connections" whether it was parents knowing the "right" people or people at Harvard etc.) with few URMs getting admitted as well. Basically, being an Asian American applicant with no hooks and seeking FA is the worst situation and it will be virtually impossible to gain admission even with better credentials than most admitted students.[/quote]

+1 [b]I have seen Asian students with far better stats, extracurriculars and leadership positions get rejected from schools that weaker white peers have gotten into[/b].[/quote]

But you're not on the admissions committee now are you/  Who's to say they were weaker?[/quote]

[b]If you look at the Harvard lawsuit by Asian Americans,[/b] you'll see that they were systematically rated by the very admissions committee as less likable and with their accomplishments given lower valuations than their white counterparts.  Unconscious bias or racism, take your pick.[/quote]

We're not going to litigate the plaintiff's allegations in the "Harvard lawsuit" on here. Give it up! We can talk when the judges rules on the case.  And it is not being brought by Asian Americans - look into it a bit; your statement is false. [/quote]

It was brought by a non-profit entity on behalf of Asian American applicants against Harvard alleging racial discrimination against Asian American applicants by Harvard. Is that clear enough?[/quote]

+1  [b]This is a college admissions board.  We have the right to quote facts that have been cited in the lawsuit, such as Asians being rated as "less likable" by Harvard[/b].[/quote]

Of course you have the right to quote the plaintiff's allegations.  Will they prevail is the question?  Methinks not.[/quote]

[b]There is adequate evidence for the judge to rule in favor of the plaintiff and if not, the Supreme Court will find impermissible and unlawful racial discrimination on the part of Harvard. [/b][/quote]

I say not. So let's wait and see.  And yes I will come back and eat crow if you are right.[/quote]
Harvard had a sharp increase in acceptances of Asian-American students in 2019, the first such increase in a decade.  So perhaps their subjective criteria were found wanting.[/quote]

It went from like 23% to 25%. yes, very sharp increase.[/quote]

[b]Wrong.  It was a 5.1% increase. [/b] Which is huge for a minority group.  
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/the-class-of-23-applicant-pool-of-43330-reflects-a-1-4-percent-increase-over-class-of-2022/[/quote]

Are you math challenged?  In 2018 Asians were 23% of the class; this year it's around 25% [/quote]

The % of Asian Americans' admission began to mysteriously increase starting from the year the law suit was filed back in around 2015. It continued to climb by 1-2% each year since then to now being around 25% after being stuck at around 18% for decades prior to the lawsuit. What a coincidence![/quote]

Asians up 5% this year, African Americans went down by the same percent.  Coincidence?  [/quote]

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