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Reply to "$24 billion NYC public schools only accepted 7 black students (of 895) to top magnet high schoool"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most of the asians attending Stuyvesant and Bronx Science are first or second generation immigrants. Most are low income and qualifying for free lunch. Free prep classes were offered. With such a high immigrant population for whom English is not a first language and who are coming from a foreign culture, it means that African Americans have an advantage over immigrants if the tests were actually biased. This is because for AA's English is overwhelmingly their first language, and they grow up in an American culture. The only admissions criteria are scored based. The SES of the applicants across POC seems roughly similar. The differences would appear to be academic culturally based and likely family differences rather than bias of the exam itself. Asian cultures place a lot of emphasis on exams as a means to improve their station in life. For over 2000 years in China, anyone could take an exam to become a civil servant and improve their station in life. It was one of the most famous meritocracies in history. This cultural arficiat remains today in the Gaokao in China and various entrance exams in Japan and Korea. East Asia it is quite common across all social classes to attend cram schools and prep schools for hours after regular school. Its considered part of daily life. http://www.chinasage.info/examinations.htm https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2095454/chinas-top-cram-school-saviour-poor-rejected-rich https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/world/asia/25iht-cram.1.13975596.html [/quote] Ok. What is the history and culture of most of the Hispanic and black students who took the test? And if cultures approach testing differently, then that inherently makes the test biased? There are cultural barriers for kids who don’t come from a test-focused culture. [/quote]
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