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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t know. [b]Ross is certainly doing something right.[/b] Ross has nearly as many black student test takers as Mann and Key.

Black Students score 3+ ELA
Brent 54.5%
Eaton 85.7%
Hearst 78%
Janney 79.3%
Key 78.3%
Lafayette 76.6%
Mann 95.7%
Murch 61%
Ross 100%
Shepherd 76.9%

Black Students score 4+ ELA
Brent 30.3%
Eaton 53.6%
Hearst 46%
Janney 55.2%
Key 60.0%
Lafayette 53.2%
Mann 69.6%
Murch 36.6%
Ross 85.7%
Shepherd 51.3%

Black Students score 5+ ELA
Brent 0.00%
Eaton 10.7%
Hearst 0.00%
Janney 6.9%
Key 8.7%
Lafayette 6.4%
Mann 8.7%
Murch 0.00%
Ross 28.6%
Shepherd 7.7%
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It's hard to say this conclusively without more info (which I guess isn't directly available).  It could just be that Ross has more high-SES black students than the other schools.[/quote]

No. Why try to find a reason to not acknowledge Ross is doing a stellar job? [/quote]

Why the defensiveness?  This is my first comment, and I'm just wondering whether there could be another explanation.  I tend to think that demographics are more important than teaching styles/strategies when predicting student outcomes.  I'm genuinely curious whether the demographics of black students might be different at Ross vs. the other schools named.  Nothing against Ross at all, and I'm happy that the AA students there are doing well (I'm AA myself and live IB for one of the other schools on the list).[/quote]

There are barely any black students in any of these schools and out of those there are barely any that are at-risk.  You are talking about a handful of kids in each grade max.  It's impossible to make any kind of logical conclusions with such a small sample size.  Also agree with pp that data is questionable.  There aren't more than 10 black students in most of those categories listed I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though what is the source for the data[/quote]

Source is OSSE excel list. Have to have 10+ students to get %.[/quote]

I'm in the detailed 2018 Parcc performance results excel file and the only way I am getting more than 10 black students for actual data is by combining all black students in 3rd 4th and 5th grade.

There are only 14 test results in 3rd 4th and 5th grade total.  For those 14 kids the scores are impressive Math is 1 level 2, 1 level 3, 10 level 4s and 1 level 5. and ELA is similar, hwoever there are less than 10 at-risk kids in the whole school.  So these scores really aren't that surprising to me.

Also for reference there were only 29 white test takers and their scores are similarly high for math 2 level 2s, 2 level 3s, 15 level 4s and 10 level 5s[/quote]

The point is, [b]even with alll things being equal with SES, there is usually a large gap with white and black in DC. [/b]There is no gap at Ross. To PP, this is not an anomaly, Ross is usually this way. Stoddert and Eaton do pretty well also.[/quote]

Source? I’ve heard of a small gap at nationwide as you’ve described, but never knew this had been examined before in DC.[/quote]

You don't need a source. You can look at individual schools with near-nonexistent FARM levels and compare those schools black and white performance.

Example: 
Janney 
7 low income students (1%) 
36 AA students (5%)
White performance Math 89%
Black performance Math 38%
White ELA 83%
Black ELA 55%

Janney's test scores are higher for their SPED (42/42%) and ELL (56/69%) than their black students (80% of which are non low income - this is a silly assumption that all 7 of their low income students are AA). [/quote]

Looking at schools with very low FARMS levels is not the same thing as *controlling* for SES.   Even if they’renot FARMs I would bet you money that those AA kids are not nearly as affluent as the average white kids at Janney—maybe a couple, but not most.

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