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Reply to "Two paths to magnet program at Richard Montgomery High School"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] Why do you assume that the comprehensive kids in the IB classes are low-performing?[/quote] The average SAT score difference between IB kids and non IB kids is probably [b]more than 700 pts.[/b] I think it's a fair thing to say. And before you ask for proof, you know as well as I do the MCPS doesn't publish that information but you can estimate - you know the number of IB kids, you know the number of RM kids (including IB), you know SAT avg for entire class, and you know avg SAT for IB kids. If you have at least HS education, you can calculate avg SAT for non IB kids. Your HW for tonight. [/quote] Good god.. How is that possible?? Gap between RMIB and regular kids that wide? [/quote] It's not, that PP is a nut. To OP's point, here's what appears to be the explainer sheet that was sent with IB transcripts last year: [url]http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/rmhs/aboutys/2016-17%20IB_Insert.pdf[/url] It says there were 133 IB degree candidates in 2016 (118 successful) and given that 125 freshmen are admitted by application that means at least 8 local students joined (plus whatever it takes to replace attrition from the magnet). The back door may exist but it's not so significant. Yep, thirteen pages of back and forth about 8 interlopers (give or take).[/quote] It might be that wide on the 2400 pint scale[/quote] It would be out of 2400, [b]but the letter above says the IB average was 2100 in 2017[/b], so PP is suggesting the non-magnet students and an average score of 1400/2400. Other MCPS data says the average school wide SAT for RM in 2016 was 1779 with 387 seniors tested. Different years so can't actually calculate but the trend wouldn't support PP's claim. E.g., if there are about 3 times as many non magnet students tested, and PP's claim is correct, the 2017 school average would be (2100*1 +1400*3)/4 = 1575, a 200 point drop from the 2016 school average. I call BS and that PP hasn't resurfaced.[/quote] That's really sad. The same profile (which was replaced by above profile) for the class of 2016 used to show 2250 avg. Dropped 140 pts between classes of 2016/2017. [/quote] Even if you assume 2250 it's slightly less than 500 points difference vs. 700. [/quote] I think your math is off. So, let's say for the sake of argument, your numbers are correct. 397 include IB kids (133kids) so non IB kids are 254 kids 133 kids have avg of 2250 avg of total 397 kids is 1779 which means avg for non IB kids is 1532 2250-1152 = 718 pts. [/quote]
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