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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only part of the affidavit that is relevant to the fbi search is the statements related to why the fbi couldn’t get the documents via other means. So it should contain numbered paragraphs of the dates and times when the DOJ connected with Trump lawyers (or attempted to) and tried again and again and couldn’t reach agreement.  That type of back and forth is what people are wanting to see.  If doj did that and couldn’t get the documents, the I think a lot of people would say “well trump deserved it.”  But no.  FBI doesn’t have the benefit of the doubt with trump after the Russian collusion issue or frankly after it treated Hillary Clinton.  So here, showing that kind of detail in the affidavit would support garland’s statement that they couldn’t get the information by any other means.  And it would show that trump teams statements that after the initial interactions in early June they heard nothing else until the search last week.  Revealing that back and forth doesn’t reveal detail about exactly what they are investigating  or any secrets sources and methods.  But it would answer the questions we don’t know.  Did trump refuse to cooperate thus prompting the raid or did DOJ jump the gun.  [/quote]

Weird, I thought the FBI thoroughly investigated Hilary about Benghazi! And emails.
Russian collusion, I thought a bunch of people connected to Trump went to jail?  And just because they couldn’t pin it on Trump didn’t Mueller say “I’m not exonerating him either.”?[/quote]

You’ve managed to avoid the entire point of what I am saying.  The affidavit could be redacted of sensitive information but also leave behind information that would support or refute Garland’s statement that the DOJ couldn’t get the documents any other way.  [/quote]

Why should Trump be accommodated anymore than he has already been? His lawyers signed an affidavit saying that they don't have any more documents, when they actually did. Why should the DOJ beg and plead and negotiate any more than they already have, when the man is clearly in possession of material he should not have? [/quote]

I view it this way.  If it was super sensitive and he shouldn’t have had it, if he said no to producing it even one time, then get the warrant and go.  If it was super sensitive then I would have expected that to have happened quickly— first couple weeks of June start to finish.  But that didn’t happen.  So I am left to wonder whether 1) it was really sensitive (or just bearing legacy markings), or 2) whether DOJ dragged its feet out of a lack of focus or lack of direction or lack of urgency.  The Washington Post has talked about how Garland took weeks to decide whether the warrant should be executed.  Why?  If it was so clearly sensitive and so clear that Team Trump would not cooperate, then why all the deliberations.  For me, the behavior of DOJ and Garlands telegraphs that the documents were NOT so super sensitive.  [/quote]

You must be the most dense person ever.  They took a lot of time because they knew people like you would freak out if they executed a search warrant and wanted to bend over backward to avoid having to do that.  And you proved them right.  [/quote]
+1  There has been a lot of discussions around the fact that so many things dealing with Trump was "unprecedented" and "bad optics".   A POTUS pushed to over turn our election results because he lost.  There were whipsers of invoking the 25th because he basically encouraged a bunch of nutjobs to storm the Capitol, and his rhetoric lead some of his crazy followers to want to hang the VP.

Not only does it look bad for the country to indict a former POTUS, but they knew the mad mob would go nuts. And they were clearly correct.  Trump's inner circle leaked the names of the FBI agents who were just doing their jobs, and now they are getting death threats.

But, why should we be surprised at that.. look at how the election volunteers got death threats from Trumpsters.

Trump is a leader of a death cult, and the cult members would gladly shoot themselves on 5th ave if he told them to. Dumba$$es.. the lot of them.[/quote]

They have to take it slow because of the death cult members, which is the way Trump and his cult minions want it to go. And, if you are a member of the Trump death cult, you typically don't care much about law and order or democracy.[/quote]

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