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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All you Wootton crazies - just shut up I'm more concerned about the Regional magnets and looks like this thread keeps getting longer and longer and bumped so the rest of us will forget about that.[/quote] Actually I have questions about H and regional magnets. Under any other option A-F, Crown (with its state-of-the-art labs) is in region 5. Under H, Crown/Wootton (whatever you call it) is under region 4. How do we feel about option H handing a brand new amazing STEM centric school to a region that is already well-resourced over the under-resourced Gaithersburg community that is also overcrowded. Do we care that Option H completely screws over Gaithersburg?[/quote] For all the people who say they are pro H to diversify Wootton, please do tell—how can you support an option that “steals” a school meant for a community of lower income and less resourced and hands it over to the privileged folks of Rockville and Potomac? [/quote] The cognitive dissonance doesn't make sense. Either Wootton is rich and privileged - doesn't deserve a new building, or Wootton is being given a "gift" that it should be forced to take for the good of MCPS. Which is it?[/quote] It's really not that complicated once you stop being deliberately obtuse. While people might disagree on relative priority, most would agree Wootton is nearing the end of its functional lifespan and will soon need a major renovation or to be rebuilt. The people opposed to H don't want to stick with current Wootton building. They instead want MCPS to build them a school that the district doesn't actually need because they think it will help their property values.[/quote] So let’s say we give Wootton this brand new school. Again for the countless time: do we care or don’t care that H moves Crown/Wootton to region 4? Do we care or don’t care that this would give all the brand new, state of art labs and resources to Rockville and Potomac residents (Wootton, Churchill, RM) when this was supposed to be for under-resourced yet over populated Gaithersburg? PP, by your own logic, MCPS is giving H to “privileged” parents of Wootton. How do you feel about the entire Gaithersburg community losing access to Crown, when every other option A-G gives Crown to Region 5?[/quote] Longer-term, it isn't good for Region 5 to have MCPS paying for a high school that it doesn't need.[/quote] Even longer term, it isn’t good for anyone in the school system for MCPS to spend money breaking ground on a new school it doesn’t need, use faulty enrollment numbers, not renovate another school that they have neglected for decades, and then instead of fixing the neglected school, punishes it by closing it altogether. If we’re talking about the long term, pretty sure setting an unlawful precedent is worse. [/quote] Strongly disagree. Circumstances and data change. When a previous decision is no longer justified by the current situation and data, or (gasp!) if that decision was made in error, and there is still an opportunity to make a better decision, we should take it. Blindly continuing down a wasteful path due to a decision made 20 years ago would be the awful precedent. It's absurd to characterize option H as "punishing" people in the Wootton zone. We know in the short-to-moderate term we would need a new building for Wootton. And we just so happen to have an available building just 2.3 miles away.[/quote] So you’re suggesting that Wootton get 100% of the former Crown and Taylor agrees not to move 500+ GHS kids into the new Wootton? This would make sense if MCPS is correct that the numbers don’t support a new high school at Crown anymore. However, I wonder how GHS parents would feel about MCPS “stealing” their new school and giving it to Wootton. Oh wait, we already know this from the hearings last week. If you’re saying that Wootton has to move AND has to absorb kids through a boundary change, then you’re creating a new school and closing the old Wootton. You can play with semantics all you like, [b]but a judge is unlikely to agree,[/b] at least in the short term due to irreparable harm to Wootton families. MCPS doesn’t want this situation anywhere near a courtroom because it would be forced to open Crown with only 500 GHS kids. Any more kids than that and MCPS can’t close Wootton and move it to Crown.[/quote] By my read school closure under the regulations means the literal facility- "permanently ceasing to use it for educational purposes". It basically means a "negative one" facility for educational purposes. There aren't established facts to show that is happening here. The currently empty Rock Terrace school in Rockville did not go through closure proceedings. Nor did any of the other buildings currently being used as holding schools.[/quote] Multiple school buildings stop being used over the years. Some reopened like Woodward and Northwood, others like Leland and became something else. [/quote] PP here. Thank you for adding additional examples. All of these, as far as my internet research can tell me, did not follow closure procedures, presumably because there was not a plan to permanently stop using them for educational purposes.[/quote] And for the last time, no one in those cases cared enough to pursue it in court. In some of those cases (Blair) it was welcomed by the community. If no one cares enough to pursue it in court, even if it’s illegal, it’s a harmless legal error. Stop comparing Wootton to all these other schools on closure, because I can assure you Wootton will sue. They will be ready the moment H is passed.[/quote] Cold Spring, Cabin John, Wootton parent back again. I have no idea about the legalities admittedly. But how pathetic of a human you must be to spend the time to sue about a brand new building a couple of miles down the road just because your kid will now ride a bus instead of walk.....goodness[/quote]
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