Reply to what is the difference between Madison HS, Oakton, and Reston high schools?

Forum Index » Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS)

Reply to "what is the difference between Madison HS, Oakton, and Reston high schools?"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]No. You have to look at the other schools. There are a lot more kids Pupil placing out of IB schools than AP Schools. [This is totally meaningless unless you know that the kids were in the IB program. In reality, very few of them at all were likely in IB.]

Here is another reason Herndon kids may be pupil placing into South Lakes:

The AAP kids go to Hughes from Herndon Middle School. Hughes shares a campus with South Lakes. The kids are accustomed to going there.
It has the Middle Years IB Program and I am confident that the focus is to get the kids into IB in high school.

Until FCPS eliminates the IB program, this is likely to consider. The students are being told, I am sure, that IB is superior.[/quote]

I doubt that kids at Hughes are being hard sold on IB, otherwise you would have more then 50 kids completing the IB diploma each year. The AAP kids at Hughes have friends there and are probably chosing to stay with their friends, not that they want to complete the IB program.

Kids are transferring out of IB school before they can take IB classes in favor of AP classes. They are required to take AP classes at the HS that they are pupil placed in. If they don't take AP classes, they have to return to your base school. Do you think that a student taking an AP class as a freshman is not likely to take IB classes as a Junior, when most IB classes become available to students? So yes, those kids who transferred to AP schools and are taking AP classes would have been taking IB classes.

We hope to be pupil placing our son out of an IB school into an AP school. He will have had 2 years of a foreign language at MS, just in case he says he wants to stay at the IB school, so he can take the IB Diploma. If he chooses to stay at the IB program, he will work the IB diploma because it is the most rigorous path at an IB school. If he goes to the AP school, I figure he will take some where in the neighborhood of 10 APs, maybe more.

And yes, there are kids from IB schools that end up at TJ but that is a relatively small number of kids.

SLHS sends 33 kids to TJ
Robinson sends 50
Justice sends 26
Mount Vernon sends 24
Lewis sends 39
Madison sends 66

[/quote]

Someone has a real problem keeping Madison and Marshall straight on these threads.

The statistics for how many kids Annandale "sends' to TJ are distorted because TJ is located within the Annandale district and some families move into that area after their kids get into TJ for convenience. [/quote]

Yup, I confuse Madison and Marshall. Marshall transfers out 195 kids and transfers in 64. Marshall sends 84 kids to TJ. So, 111 kids transfer out of Marshall to schools that are not TJ. 
[b]Annandale has 56 kids at TJ. It transfers out 294 kids with 50 transferring in. I don't think that is because parents are moving to the area to attend TJ. [/b]

The point is that the number of kids transferring out of the IB schools is far higher than the number of kids transferring in for IB, South Lakes seems to be the exception to that rule. I suspect that the 164 kids transferring from Herndon to SLHS are AAP kids with friends at SLHS whose parents would prefer them at a different school then Herndon.

I understand that some folks really like the IB program but I think they are in the minority. The people who are taking IB ala carte would take the same type of AP classes. They probably don't care if it is IB or AP. 
[/quote]

If the TJ students reside in the Annandale district, then the 294 "transfers out" this past year include the 56 kids living within the Annandale boundaries at TJ.  Of the remaining 238, 144 can be accounted for by transfers of 10 or more kids to these schools:

Lake Braddock: 87
Woodson: 23
Edison:  14
Bryant Alternative: 10
Falls Church:  10

That leaves 94 unaccounted for, although Annandale had fewer than 10 transfers to Fairfax, Justice, Langley, Lewis, Madison, Marshall, McLean, Oakton, Robinson, West Potomac, and West Springfield.  I suspect some of the transfers were also to other alternative programs for which FCPS doesn't provide more details. [/quote]

This talk about transfers is pointless and misleading because you don't know whether these were IB kids at the origin school or that they took any AP classes when they got to the destination school.

It could easily be that the IB kids are staying at the IB schools. You just don't have the information to conclude that these transfers "say anything" about IB vs AP.[/quote]

I think we all know that if Lewis were AP it would not have so many pupil placements and such an anemic enrollment.  [/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics