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The small private school will have a de facto ceiling on HYP admits, legacy and non-legacy alike. The small private will both per capita and, likely in real terms, have more legacies. The small private will have both per capita, and possibly in real terms (certainly for the rich kid sports), more recruitable athletes. And the small private will have, both per capita and in real terms, more VIPs.

What does this mean? Being a top stats legacy (non-VIP, non-athlete) from the public is much more desirable than having that status from the private, and the kid is more likely to get in. There is far less competition for the, say, maximum of 4 Harvard slots — one of which will go to an athlete, one to a VIP, one to a first-gen type, and 1 to the top stats legacy (or none, if the VIP type is a legacy to begin with, or if a recruited athlete is also first gen). The public school will have far less likelihood of VIPs, far less likelihood of fencing recruits etc.

Per capita makes a difference for legacy — no question.

Of course, legacy is such a minor hook these days (without big money or VIP status), that the kid is not getting in either way — so what if the kid would have a 15% chance from the public but only 5-10% from the private.

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Love how this poster holds forth like they actually know something. No, there are no specific caps on the part of HYP schools for small private schools. It really depends on the individual students.

What seems like a cap exists because the HYPs admit less than 4% of applicants. Harvard and Princeton probably went below 3% which is why they don’t publish the info anymore.

With a greater population of hooked students, publics still get fewer of them into HYPs. Why? Because one factor elite schools look is the rigor of the applicants’ high schools and how well students from X high school has done historically at their university. Kids with great SAT scores and APs can still struggle at elite institutions. The colleges have data on how well students from X school have done and they use it.

It’s why you have more kids getting into HYP from Sidwell, NCS/STA, and GDS. Being hooked with established rigor and a track record of kids from your school doing well helps.

Athletic recruitment helps, too. Saw stats recently that showed recruited athletes have 80+% likelihood of being admitted at elite schools.

FWIW, kids don’t all congregate around HYP either. Our CCO encourages the kids to select the right school for them and sometimes that doesn’t mean HYP, even when they get in. I know a kid who was admitted to five Ivies but is going to a non-Ivy that is elite in his chosen sport. [/quote]

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