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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Please stop calling it a society. This is the only place individual training and independent competition is getting hyped for the sole purpose of shtting on kids. It is indeed a natural occurring tendency for families who seek additional training and competition outside of club. You do see a lot of the players who are not viewed as "top" in club because we all know what that means at U-littles.

It was extremely hard to convince our teammates before U13 to ever do anything outside of club for reasons like it's too much, the kids didn't really like soccer that much or the parents had better things to do. Most of our teammates in the older ages now still don't and have never participated in a 3v3, 5v5, futsal or out of club competition. This is on the girls elite team side.

So which on is the normal? The young players that only go to club practice and games because that's enough to stay on a top team because they are seen as "top" or the ones that train and play as much as they want outside of club because they want to continue to get better and see value and growth in all these experiences.

I'll give you a hint - the "top players" that didn't put extra time and effort outside of club before U13 are no longer considered "top" by those very same coaches. Their passion, that was arguably never there, fizzles alongside their ability to compete because of the self-imposed limits on their development.[/quote]

OK, so tell me how many kids did all that extra training pre-U13 and completely fizzled out or left the sport entirely. It's far more than you probably want to admit. [/quote]

This is a completely pointless request and proves no point. No one can ever keep track of everyone who has ever trained in soccer and how long they continued, not sure anyone cares. The point here is that of the ones that are actually successful in the U14-U15 age groups currently (and I have a pretty good look on the NA and MA girls landscape), almost all have participated in a variety of training and competition experiences outside of club. It is the US version of informal soccer culture (and as such it unfortunate involves $$$) but it fills many of the gaps left wide open in player development and nurturing passion for the game that the US club system would never be able to provide.[/quote]

It's a great request because it got you worked up. The point still stands - there are way more kids leaving than excelling because they were "forced" into all this extra nonsense at an early age. The top kids would still be the top kids either way.

Funny thing is I actually agree with you in principle and my daughter loves the random 3v3s/outside of club stuff around breaks in the schedule[/quote]

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