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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My favorite was the hearings on the bill where homeless testified how they would prefer to be in ward 3 bc of the amenities and safety. They stopped just short of asking for the granite counters, stainless steel appliances and open kitchen concept. [/quote]

Please.    You sound vile.    Poor people are entitled to safety, transit, and a placet O buy groceries and toiletries just like rich people. Surely you can distinguish between those needs and granite counters.  [/quote]

So the poor and the rich are entitled to safety and amenities but those of us in between are shit out of luck...[/quote]

You have the same entitlements.   And if you are not receiving them where you live, you have the freedom to vote out your elected officials [b]or move[/b].

Alternatively, if you think poor people have it so great, I'm sure there is a family in DC General that will trade places with you.  [/quote]

There - you just said it.  I "have to move" but the poor and the rich don't.  There's the problem.  That's the entitlement we don't all have.  I can't afford to live wherever I want.  So why should the poor be given the right and the ability to live in a city or neighborhood that the rest of us can't afford?  [/quote]

If you impoverish yourself and your family or commit a violent felony, then you may get an apartment in ward 3. 
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"violent felony"?   You know these are homeless families with children, right?  That many of them have jobs, right?  That they are being given temporary housing while they work towards a permanent place to live?

Being homeless doesn't mean someone is a violent felon.  It doesn't mean they are lazy.   It sure as hell does not mean they are any less of a human being then me, or you, or any of the people around us.  For pete's sake, have this many of you lost this much control over your humanity and your sense of decency towards your common man?

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Not the PP. Stop hand-wringing. PP knows that the shelters will not be properly policed. She knows it means that a lot of homeless folk are homeless due to bad decision-making and that doesn't stop once those folk are moved to Ward 3. There is nothing in this provision that helps change the behavior of those moving in - where are the provisions for the counselors of all kinds that should be intensively helping these folk? Where is the extra policing that will keep away undesirables that some of these women might have chosen for a partner, or the drug dealers that will inevitably start trolling? What investment in labor will these people in the shelter have to make, in order to keep the place looking nice? [/quote]

You can't live in your ward 3 bubble all your life.  This will expose people there to what happens in the real world- beyond NCS and congressional cc.[/quote]

Go tell that to all the condo owners and renters living in McLean Gardens.  Also, please explain to me why you have any moral right to explain to me, based on where I live, whether society needs for me to be out of what you presume is a "bubble."  My kids aren't at the cathedral schools and I don't belong to congressional or Chevy, but I'm not sure how that differentiates me from my neighbors who do.  In your vindictive attempt to stick it to people about whom you make unfounded assumptions.., all you're doing is reminding us that MD and VA might be much better options.

It was long ago a point of pride to remain in DC, but not really any longer.  I used to scoff inwardly at friends moving to MD and VA, but now see it as a perfectly viable option.  And many of us with the very high dollar incomes, and resulting DC tax dollars, are together in this.  Yes, it would be disappointing to leave our neighborhood, but it's doable, and becoming much more attractive.  And does DC really think that the newcomers will be better for the city?  That they will generate more taxes?  That they will for some reason support believe the crap about their needing to get out of their "bubbles."  Do people in DC have any sense of how much the city operations rely on the finances/taxes of relatively few neighborhoods, or that crapping on these taxpayers based on unfounded assumptions is not in the city's best interests?

And as for NY and Chicago being different, it sounds like you never spent much fun in those cities if you think there aren't suburb-ish communities close in that people say over pay for (and are way overtaxed for) to be less urban in feel, whether for single family homes, less dense residences, restrictive architectural review boards, etc.  [/quote]

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