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[b]For the most part, SES is tied to parents cognitive ability[/b], and smart people generally have smart kids.

Good read related to this talking about research using the NLSY dataset.

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2015/04/income-weath-and-iq.html

And one about IQ and SES by examining children within the same family (obviously controls for SES)

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2010/03/ses-and-iq.html

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Yes, and for the most part, the moon is made of green cheese.[/quote]

So, you think that there's no correlation between IQ and income, and IQ isn't heritable.  I'm not the one who believes in fairy tales.[/quote]

My parents were poor immigrants; uneducated in their home country because there was no really free public education there; their parents were also not educated.  They were mostly poor farmers.  They have only ever worked blue collar jobs here, and at one point, we were on food stamps.

However, they are not unintelligent.  Quite the opposite.  My siblings and I have never been labeled "gifted".  But, most of us got really good grades because our parents, though they could never help us with hw, always stressed doing well in school, and two of us now earn six figures.   Some of my parents' grandkids have been labeled "gifted".

[b]So, no, IQ not always equal to SES.   Sometimes, it's just because of circumstance. [/b]

Conversely, I knew a guy who owned his own business, doing fairly well, but was dumb as sh1t.  One of his employees would referred to him as "dumb lucky".   It was purely by circumstance and social networking that got him to where he is.  [/quote]

Of course; nobody said it was a perfect correlation.  You can always find individual situations that buck any group trend.  Muggy Bogues was an NBA player that was 5'3"; does that prove that height is not strongly correlated to NBA success or is he just an outlier?

The simple fact is smart people (as a group) earn more money.  That fact backed up by a lot of empirical data.  Smart people (generally) have smart kids; that's also backed up by a lot of data. Again, these are perfect correlations and there are general exceptions, but when viewed as a group the trend is very clear.[/quote]

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