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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another atheist, who does not believe in hell, or any afterlife.

So what happens if a murderer/rapist/abuser does not "find" the correct religion/god in their life. Do they get a pass to repent, and then go to heaven?

But then again how can a murderer/rapist/abuser not know that their actions are wrong, no matter what, regardless of believing in a religion/god?

How can a god NOT put a murderer/rapist/abuser in hell, even if they "repent" a million times over?

And if repentance is not necessary to enter heaven, then what's the point of religion/god?

Ultimately I don't believe in any of it. The heaven/hell/afterlife question is just one of many, many reasons why I don't believe in religion/god. [/quote]
Repentence IS necessary to enter Heaven. And what would the threshold be for evil acts before you're disqualified? That's why the murderer/rapist/abuser argument is tough to defend down the line. When do the scales get tipped so that you're beyond hope? But God in His love and mercy is willing to forgive anyone who seeks forgiveness through Christ.[/quote]

Situation:

The child rapist dies b/c  the father of the child he raped and killed shot him in the heart.  The rapist dies and is traveling around until he sees St. Peter at the pearly gates.  He becomes frightened and repents.  He enters heaven.

The father who shot him dies of a broken heart.  He floats to the pearly gates but doesn't repent, feeling as though he had been justified in killing that fucking bastard who took his daughter's life.  He is condemned to hell.

What's wrong with this picture, you nutty Christians?  
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... But God loves us, and He gave His son, Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh, to die on the cross for our sins, and if we trust in that, He will save us. It's just that simple. He is kind and merciful, and all He asks is that you confess your sins and ask to be forgiven. .....[/quote]

Let's say there are three 35 year old guys who commit the same terrible sin.  One drops dead a year later without repenting.  That guy goes to hell.

The second guy gets cancer, of which he dies slowly, over a period of a year, giving him a chance to sincerely repent his sin.   He goes to heaven.

Guy #3 goes on to commit that terrible sin numerous times during his long life, but accepts Jesus as his savior at the age of 80, repents, never sins like that again and dies peacefully in his 90's.  He goes to heaven too.

Sorry, I don't see God's kindness and mercy there.  I see the most sinful guy getting the best deal, simply because he lived longer, which gave him a chance to sin more, but also to be forgiven for his many sins, that harmed many more innocent people, whom God also supposedly loves. [/quote]
Are you suggesting that sinning is a benefit to us in this life?[/quote]

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