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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another atheist, who does not believe in hell, or any afterlife.

So what happens if a murderer/rapist/abuser does not "find" the correct religion/god in their life. Do they get a pass to repent, and then go to heaven?

But then again how can a murderer/rapist/abuser not know that their actions are wrong, no matter what, regardless of believing in a religion/god?

How can a god NOT put a murderer/rapist/abuser in hell, even if they "repent" a million times over?

And if repentance is not necessary to enter heaven, then what's the point of religion/god?

Ultimately I don't believe in any of it. The heaven/hell/afterlife question is just one of many, many reasons why I don't believe in religion/god. [/quote]
Repentence IS necessary to enter Heaven. And what would the threshold be for evil acts before you're disqualified? That's why the murderer/rapist/abuser argument is tough to defend down the line. When do the scales get tipped so that you're beyond hope? But God in His love and mercy is willing to forgive anyone who seeks forgiveness through Christ.[/quote]

Situation:

The child rapist dies b/c  the father of the child he raped and killed shot him in the heart.  The rapist dies and is traveling around until he sees St. Peter at the pearly gates.  He becomes frightened and repents.  He enters heaven.

The father who shot him dies of a broken heart.  He floats to the pearly gates but doesn't repent, feeling as though he had been justified in killing that fucking bastard who took his daughter's life.  He is condemned to hell.

What's wrong with this picture, you nutty Christians?  
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Here's what I think is wrong with the picture.  (I am the "progressive Christian" that the "real Christian" is attacking.)  The child rapist did a horrible, unspeakably evil act. But I believe there is divine light in every single person on this planet even when it's nearly impossible to see.   I do not believe there is any way someone who rapes a child can become a part of the creative conscious of God.  Just can't happen. I don't care if he "professed his love for Jesus Christ" on his deathbed.   God is all good.  Evil cannot be a part of that.  Perhaps the child rapist has to endure a painful review of his life.  And perhaps he has to return to earth (or wherever) to try again.  I believe we keep trying until we get it right.  Maybe not.  Maybe there is an answer I am missing.  But I do not believe the rapist, no matter how evil, will spend an eternity roasting in a of fire.  His life on earth is nothing compared to eternity.

The father who was completely justified in killing the rapist?  I believe he too will meet with his Creator.  His Source.    I believe his life will be reviewed.  And perhaps he will have the option to stay and remain with God.  Or maybe he'll choose to return to earth if he feels he needs to.    Certainly God would understand the pain associated with the torture and killing of a child.  His Son sacrificed His life.

The rapist will suffer.  But it won't be for an eternity.  And there won't be a little red man with a pitch fork.[/quote][/quote]
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Nice, but there's no way you can know any of this -- it's an explanation that makes you feel good - and I't not completely Christian, either -- there's some reincarnation in there that is not any part of the Christian tradition. Perhaps it appeals to your sense of compassion and fairness. 
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