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Reply to "S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]Well, a lot of women want to go to college. The fact that they have to take their hijab off to go to college or keep the hijab on and not get educated, and the fact that many women in the public sector lost their jobs because they refused to take their hijabs off is an infringement on women’s right to choose to dress the way they wish and also worship the way they choose too. [/quote] I'm Muslim and completely disagree. Like the PP immediately above me, I think a separation between church and state is healthy for a governmental institution. I don't think any public display of religion should be permitted in a public institution. Period. That would include wearing a yarmulke or wearing a cross or Star of David or scripture of any kind on jewelry over your clothing. There's a time and a place for everything and public schools and public offices is not the appropriate venue for showcasing individual religious beliefs by wearing religious garb of any kind. Think of it this way... The fact that a boss wears a particular religious symbol of some kind may make his / her subordinates feel pressure to share the boss's religious views or at least pretend to not disagree with the boss's religious leanings. These are personal decisions and convinctions which have no place in the private workforce, let alone in governmental organizations which are overseeing the education and management of the country's citizens (some of which are impressionable, young students).[/quote] interesting perspective I grew up around family members (males and females) who wore crosses - 18K/24K gold jewelry which was actually quite lovely. I have quite a few from childhood given to me on different occasions. I don't wear them now, as I'm not particularly religious. The jewelry, while religious, is also cultural if that makes sense. However, I do agree with your post to some extent, but I doubt that idea would fly in the States. How do you define public, for example? in this case, just schools and government offices? And you mention the private workforce, too. What about organizations that are religiously-based? interesting take, PP[/quote] I'm the PP to which you are referring. I can only speak for myself and my family members. I agree that such a hard line of separation between church and state would not fly in the US and, indeed, I don't think such a hard line is necessary here. I just don't think we can compare a country which is arguably the last democratic modern Muslim country outlawing headscarves and other religious garb in public schools and governmental institutions to what we do here in America. It is a far more delicate situation in Turkey and in other modern Muslim countries than it is here in the States and to compare the US to any of these countries is an oversimplification of the issue.[/quote]
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