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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]Well, a lot of women want to go to college. The fact that they have to take their hijab off to go to college or keep the hijab on and not get educated, and the fact that many women in the public sector lost their jobs because they refused to take their hijabs off is an infringement on women’s right to choose to dress the way they wish and also worship the way they choose too. [/quote] I'm Muslim and completely disagree. Like the PP immediately above me, I think a separation between church and state is healthy for a governmental institution. I don't think any public display of religion should be permitted in a public institution. Period. That would include wearing a yarmulke or wearing a cross or Star of David or scripture of any kind on jewelry over your clothing. There's a time and a place for everything and public schools and public offices is not the appropriate venue for showcasing individual religious beliefs by wearing religious garb of any kind. Think of it this way... The fact that a boss wears a particular religious symbol of some kind may make his / her subordinates feel pressure to share the boss's religious views or at least pretend to not disagree with the boss's religious leanings. These are personal decisions and convinctions which have no place in the private workforce, let alone in governmental organizations which are overseeing the education and management of the country's citizens (some of which are impressionable, young students).[/quote] Different poster here. I find this fascinating -- because not only is it unconstitutional here to forbid the free exercise of religion, it's just such a part of American culture. [/quote] Yes, NP, different countries do have different ways of handling freedom of religion and separation of church and state. Turkish culture is a very old one, but the modern republic of Turkey which we enjoy today is still young - established in 1923. Islam is a beautiful religion but, unfortunately the religion is vulnerable to several factors which make it easy for extremism to persevere. The religion does not have a controlling centralized religious leadership so individualized (and often ignorant or manipulative) interpretation of the religion without the checks and balances like those in Christianity are allowed to run amuck. Combine this with the fact that most Muslim countries are poorer (with the exception of Saudia Arabia and the UAE) with less opportunities for the locals and a disproportionate array of opportunities for powerful Western foreigners looking to benefit from the country's political instability and rich natural resources, and it's not so hard to see why Islam has a tendency to be taken to extremes. As such, comparing the way in which separation of church and state is handled in a country whose vast majority is Muslim (and which shares borders with extremist Muslim countries and who has an overwhelming influx of immigrants from extremist Muslim countries) to the way in which America handles separation of church and state is really comparing apples to oranges. [/quote]
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