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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a current of religious intolerance in the whole discussion here (other thread, but it a Ways is that was on similar threads). I don't feel I have to apologize for being a proud Jewish woman, looking forward to raising a Jewish son. But I don't plan on having many people check out my sons dick. It's so odd to me that people are seeing all these other kids penises! And I'm not even prude. Just, why would hu be checking out my son? [/quote] I have issues with the claim "religious intolerance." There are areas around the world where some groups of people circumcise girls in the name of religion, and people call it genital mutilation. Religious tolerance is one thing, but I think there are some practices done in the name of religion that should be questioned because they involve altering a child's (who is unable to consent) genitalia irreversibly.[/quote] Equating circumcision with female genital mutilation is nuts. They aren't remotely the same thing. One is done as a covenant with God (and for health reasons) while the other is to punish and control women to inhibit their sexual pleasure. It's like equating getting your ears pierced with having a bullet in your head...hey, they're both holes![/quote] Actually, some people argue that female circumcision is done for religious reasons. They are the same thing: mutilating a child in the name of religion. And male circumcision IS mutilation. You are cutting away and altering the boy's genitalia. If you believe that that is necessary to continue a covenant with god, then own it, call it what it is. but don't claim that mutilation one religion does (Muslim and female circumcision) is bad and controlling but mutilation another religion sanctions (Judaism and male circumcision) is good. They both involve invasive, altering procedures done to a person who has no say in the matter. There have been arguments made that male circumcision actually does nerve damage and reduces sensation in the penis. If you think there isn't an element of control going on with with male circumcision, then you are completely deluding yourself. Not to mention, an infant boy has no way of agreeing or consenting to entering into a covenant with god. How is it not controlling for the parent to make that decision for an infant, especially when the alteration done to his genitalia is ABSOLUTELY irreversible?[/quote] Islam does not prescribe female circumcision; in fact, many circumcised girls in Egypt are from Christian families. Female circumcision is neither widely practiced nor religiously prescribed to Muslims. Epic fail to your argument.[/quote] Local religious leaders in Africa are actually working with humanitarian leaders to spread the word that female circumcision in NOT a part of the Islamic religion. Please educate yourself before you try to educate others. You are spreading incorrect information.[/quote] ACTUALLY, "what a few Muslims in Africa believe" does not equal "what Islam prescribes", otherwise these religious leaders would be working to spread the word everywhere, not just in Africa. If Islam prescribed female circumcision, what is your theory on why Muslims elsewhere don't do it? If you have scriptural proof that Islam prescribes female circumcision, please post quotation. Learn to read an argument thoroughly before you critique it. Let's break it down again.[/quote]
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