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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The thing is, most of the research coming out now that more and more people are on GLP-1s is showing a myriad of benefits - sleep apnea reduction, lower cancer rates, significant benefits in those with addiction, and more. You can’t just discount the emerging science.

And for those who say “well those benefits are just the benefits of weight loss in general”, sure. But a) there is growing evidence some of these benefits are independent of the amount of weight lost and b) a lot of people on these meds would never have lost a significant amount of weight on their own (whether bc they have an underlying issue or just couldn’t sustain weight loss efforts, it is irrelevant). So we demonize the medication that will give them health and longevity bc…why? We don’t judge people for taking meds for any disease besides obesity. [b]Make it make sense[/b]. [/quote]

I can actually understand why some people "demonize" GLP-1s.  I imagine these are people who had to work hard their whole lives to maintain their weight.  They always said no to cake.  They got up early to workout.  They went out jogging when they'd rather be on the couch scrolling their phone.  They have deprived themselves.  And now they see others get the same result without lifting a finger.

Imagine you've studied hard all semester.  You didn't go out on your Friday nights, you turned off the TV, you studied.  At the final, another kid, who didn't even show up to class, swallows a magic pill before class which makes him super smart and he scores even higher than you.  Wouldn't you feel... I dunno... frustrated?  Jealous?

We as a society have been told our whole lives that there's no shortcuts.  You have to put in the hard work, develop discipline.  GLP-1s are turning that on its head.  And yes, the formal line is that GLP-1s are supposed to be taken in conjunction with lifestyle changes, a healthy diet and strength training.  But in reality?  This is America baby.  Have you seen our population?  A LOT of GLP-1 users (none on here, obviously - I'm talking about Billy Bob down in rural Arkansas) are making zero lifestyle changes.  There are pre diabetic people who are actually TRYING to push their body into diabetes so they can get the drug covered by insurance.  10 years ago, when their A1C came back at 5.8, they'd cut back on the cake and ice cream. Today, they're like, bring me the Big Gulp, I need to hit 6.0 or higher so I can get that drug, keep doing my thing and look like Kate Moss.[/quote]

You’re proving my point though. You’re saying the only people who “deserve” health are the ones who sacrificed for it. What other disease do we do this for? This line of reasoning also discounts those who do the “right” things but are unable to lose significant weight. I know everyone wants to blame the fat people for their slovenliness, but obesity is COMPLEX. I know you don’t want to accept that, but it’s a fact. If you trust science in other arenas of health, you have to here too.

ALSO, for most people weight does not just fall off on these meds. You have to eat protein, hydrate, lift weights, and have frequent check-ins with your doctor. I know you also don’t want to believe this.

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I'm the PP you are responding to.  My bad, I should've said "DP" in my previous post!  I think you think I am someone else on this thread.  I've only posted once (I'm the cancer survivor).    I really don't have any hate toward anyone on a GLP-1 - seriously.  I'm closely following the GLP-1 discussion for its potential to lower risk of cancer / cancer recurrence. (But I recognize we are years away, if ever, before a GLP-1 would be standard of care in oncology).  I can actually relate to what you are saying - although I've never struggled with my weight, I was diagnosed with an aggressive cancer at age 40.  Even though no one would ever say this to me, I felt like people judging me... like they were thinking I must've been super unhealthy to get cancer at 40, and that it would never happen to * them * because they live a healthy lifestyle. And guess what - I was just as healthy as anyone else when I was diagnosed.  This was bad luck, bad genes, just like a lot of obese folks just have bad genes / bad metabolism.  So I get what you are saying.  I was just trying to explain where I think the GLP-1 haters are coming from.

I only know a few people on these drugs but they are rural extended family members, not DCUMers.  But no, they are definitely not eating protein and doing weights.  They are losing weight truly without lifting a finger.  That doesn't upset me or anything (I'm glad they are on the drugs bc it's a heck of a lot healthier than they were before) but surely if I was working really hard to maintain a certain weight, it would make me feel... something.
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