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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What is elite level athlete?  You are either recruitable, or not recruitable.  [/quote]

You can be recruitable but choosing not to play. If a girl was a starter on a nationally ranked team but chose not to play they still have a fantastic EC. If they were a captain on the team even better. They were elite at their main EC which is the bar.[/quote]

Definitely not true and I say this as a parent of varsity atheletes.  If your kid is not an athletic recruit, sports are among the useless ecs.  May get some leadership points if kid is a varsity captain, but others pretty useless as far as admission as  impact.[/quote]

This.  If your kid isn't going to play in college (and putting aside sports where the kid might get national exposure competing outside of school), the school DNGAF.  [/quote]

I disagree. DS won at a national level for a sport he didn’t pursue in college. I think doing something (and winning) at that scale absolutely matters. Why wouldn’t it? I think top colleges want winners. People who go out and accomplish big things. I don’t know if that’s why he got in, but his results were excellent and without those accomplishments I’m not sure he had the same strong narrative [/quote]

The national win is what matters. And gets you the rubric points.
Not playing the sport.[/quote]

It's the level of excellence, not the sport itself.....some just hate the idea that colleges value sports so much that it colors their thinking.[/quote]

You are saying the same thing. Sports gets you there bc its natl recognition. Could be something else too that gets natl recognition.[/quote]

Yes! But just read this thread. There is a bunch of people who say that sports useless as an EC along with a few who are correcting them and saying that it can be powerful if combined with excellence. Context matters for any EC, including sports.[/quote]

Not the way you are defining excellence.  An olympian or equivalent, yes.  Not some kid who made all state for basketball.[/quote]

The all state basket player applying to Harvard will absolutely get the two that they need for their EC/Athletics bucket. Why are you struggling with that? The correct information is not hard to find.[/quote]

No they won't.  Harvard could care less about that.[/quote]

Literally 15 seconds with a web search and an AI summary:

A 2 on the Harvard admissions athletic rubric generally represents a strong non-recruited athlete with regional or statewide distinction, or a high-level athlete capable of walking on to a varsity team. It indicates significant, but not national-level, athletic achievement, marking the student as a potential contributor to Harvard athletics.

Key Aspects of an Athletic Rating 2:

Athletic Level: Strong, high-level high school athlete, often a team captain or standout player, but not quite at the "1" level (which is reserved for top-tier recruits).

Distinction: Regional or state-level recognition is typical.

Ability to Contribute: They are likely to be strong enough to walk on to a Harvard team and make a contribution.

Comparison to "1": While a 1 indicates national-level achievement and guaranteed or near-guaranteed recruiting status, a 2 is for top applicants who are not necessarily recruited by coaches.[/quote]

Right, but Harvard doesn't give much weight to the "athletic ranking" unless they are recruits.  What part don't you get?   Cleary too much reliance on AI and none on actual reasoning.[/quote]

If you understood anything from the SFFA information you would realize that the athletic rating can substitute for the EC rating and thus provide one of the three 2s needed to have a solid chance at admission. It’s a verifiable fact, nothing more yet you keep fighting without anything except a dislike for athletics s an EC…..you just can’t handle the truth.[/quote]

I have read SFFA and the associated material pretty closely and athletic scores are NOT a substitute for the EC score unless the athletic score is a 1.[/quote]

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