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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sweden, Denmark, high proportion atheist population. Not all of Europe is so religious. [/quote]

Denmark is a high trust society.  mostly because it is homogeneous.

https://www.helenrussell.co.uk/books/the-year-of-living-danishly/

now in the US diversity means 80% Indians in IT and a token white person.

but to progressives that is ok.  [/quote]

Australia, also high atheist population, also diverse. [/quote]

You guys keep citing Christian countries. Where are your non-Christian examples? You know the places that never were Christian… Surely you must have at least one paradise where no one celebrates Christmas.[/quote]

*Uh not really. Not if the majority of a country is atheist. It is more about FREE countries. With true religious freedom, there will probably be some celebration if Christmas and other religion holidays. We don't want forced atheism either. Just freedom. [/quote]

There are very few true atheists, but a lot of lazy people that don’t want to render unto God what is God’s.

Those people can live off the fruits of their forefathers for a time, but things decay over time.

What you perhaps actually like is to live off the accumulated social capital without having to do anything yourself to maintain it. Much like some people like to live off inherited wealth without having to work hard. That certainly can be appealing.

This is why I’m poking you to name a truly non-Christian nation that meets your definition of freedom. Because such a thing cannot exist without generations of Christians doing the hard work.[/quote]
DP...I didn't have to look very far because Canada is a non-Christian nation that meets my definition of freedom.[/quote]

When would you say Canada became a non-Christian nation?[/quote]

DP. It's in their constitution. From the founding, then.

[quote]The constitution provides for freedom of conscience, religion, thought, belief, opinion, and expression. Every individual is equal under the law and has the right to equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination based on religion. The law imposes “reasonable limits” on the exercise of these religious rights only where such restrictions can be “demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.” The law permits individuals to sue the government for violations of religious freedom. Federal and provincial human rights laws prohibit discrimination based on the grounds of religious belief. Civil remedies include compensation and changes to the policy or practice responsible for the discrimination.

https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-religious-freedom/canada#:~:text=The%20constitution%20provides%20for%20freedom,without%20discrimination%20based%20on%20religion.
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Their Constitution dates back to 1982, not the founding btw. They were founded as a Crown Colony, and the Crown is the head of the Anglican Church. So that's 200+ years of being an officially Christian nation, and 43 of being merely culturally Christian.

Once again, you people seem to really like formerly Christian nations that are frittering away their spiritual inheritance, much like one might befriend a trust-funder who spends his parents wealth. But we all know the shirt-tails to shirt-tails story.

And I'm still waiting for an example of a free nation without a deep Christian heritage. [/quote]

Yes, Canada began as its own nation -- not as a colony of the British Empire -- with the patriation of its constitution. It has been an independent country since 1982.

If you wanted its history as a colony, you should have asked for that. [/quote]

Please give it up, Canada is a member of the commonwealth for goodness sake.[/quote]

Yes, but as its own nation, no longer as just a colony since patriation of its Constitution in 1982.

This is not hard.

Canada was not self-determining before 1982, and now it is. When do you think the USA started its history as a nation? Back while we were still a colony of the Brits? Come on. 
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Behold the atheist. Got something completely wrong and is now doubling down in the most cringe inducing manner rather than admit a fault. Atheistic morality requires one to string self-serving lies together to preserve your worldview.

Thank you for illustrating to anyone on the fence what it will be like if atheists ever take control of.

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Thomas Jefferson would vomit on you if he still were alive and could do it, poster.

You are nearly deranged in your misunderstanding of the intent of the primary founders of this nation. By the way, the most notable of them were deists and not Christians, and they enshrined the separation of church and state above all other precepts - which is why it is included in the very first amendment.

In fact, on his tombstone Jefferson dictated that his crafting of the Declaration and of the Virginia statute for separation of church and state be the only inscriptions, as they were the things for which he wanted to be remembered - there is no mention that he was a president of the United States.

We are NOT a Christian nation, we are a nation of laws based in enlightenment principles. [/quote]

+ 1 million

We were and are intended to be a nation of enlightened people who accept their neighbors with the common American bond without regard to religious beliefs.

Jefferson and most other founding fathers would vomit if they heard of this very pathetic conversation we're having in 2025.

BTW- religion served it's purpose of policing society for a few millenniums but it's the atheists who have a much better track record of love and peace than the Christians, Muslims, and Jews over the past 500 years. Facts.[/quote]

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