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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory.  A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation."  I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?

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I think this is an interesting question.  Historically, the USA had religous tests for [b][i]state office[/i][/b] rather than [b][i]federal office.[/i][/b]

I'm not sure what you are defining a christian nation as.  Nation: a country considered as a body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular area or territory.

Arguably there is a historical "American nation", that is to say those who derive descent from the original mostly Dutch, British, and German peoples (and potentially those of African descent) who resided here who were overwhelmingly Christian, which would mean that there is a body of people united by common descent, history, culture (religion) who inhabit a particular area. That can get into a wierd/uncomfortable historical argument as to whom the posterty is that is referenced in the constitutional preamble is refering to. Is a Christian nation, a nation of which the majority of the people are Christian, or a nation within a country that has an established Christian church?

You also have to define what limits there are to freedom in general before you can have a conversation because I don't believe there has ever been an absolute to freedom in the USA, and most modern peoplek in the USA wouldn't tolerate it anyways.[/quote]

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