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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There's always someone left out.  When that someone has monetary means and a voice to complain/advocate, it gets attention.  Wherever they draw the line, people will complain.

Essentially, there's no winning in this argument, if we can even call it an argument.[/quote]

Absolutely, that's just how things work. No matter what, a selection process will never be 100% accurate and give those AAP spots out to the people most qualified, some who don't deserve it will get those spots. People will always complain no matter what[/quote]
Then why not at least make it objective so there isn't an option for bias or favors?[/quote]

College submissions have some degree of subjectivity as well. [/quote]

College admissions have a limited number of slots and have a completely different goal than gifted education.  Some degree of subjectivity is fine, but the current model is rejecting kids with 99th percentile scores when the teacher doesn't like the kid.

The most logical system would automatically admit kids above a specified score threshold on whatever ability or achievement tests they wish to use.  Then, kids below the threshold could apply and be holistically admitted through teacher ratings and portfolios.  [/quote]

Not that I disagree (particularly since my child is a great online test-taker), but this will encourage test preparation even more than previously. Though in my own mind personally, even with prepping, if a student can score 99 percentile, they've proven to me to be capable to be in AAP.  [/quote]

Sure, but it's a lot easier to prep your child to suck up to the teacher than it is to prep them to a 98th percentile+ score.  For what AAP is, it would make the most sense to just use an achievement test.  The kids who are above grade level in both math and language arts should be in AAP.  The kids above grade level in only language arts should place into the AAP classroom for language arts and in a gen ed one for math.  The kids above grade level in only math should get advanced math.  Some small number of kids who didn't test at above grade level could appeal, and based on the teacher's recommendation + a portfolio review could be placed anyway.  There would be a lot less angst, and none of the insanity where AAP teachers have to deal with kids who are below grade level, while above grade level gen ed kids are told that they can't get advanced math or an above grade level reading group.  [/quote]

This would only work if the entire grade level team (all teachers) taught LA at the same exact time, math at the same exact time, etc. this is often done at a local level IV. It requires all team members teaching all subjects. But many elementary schools have grade level teams that departmentalize beginning in 4th grade (one teacher only teaches math, one does LA, one does SS/Sci.) so this would not be possible.[/quote]

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