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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]it was an interesting conversation at a pivotal time. I'm Jewish, very pro-Israel but I hate Netanyahu and what he's done to our Palestinian neighbors. I wish they had talked about how Hamas has still not release 50 remaining hostages (or their bodies): that would end the famine right away. But the Netanyahu government isn't doing anyone any favors right now and needs to change. It makes all of us look bad and endangers all of us as such.[/quote]

How are you so certain that releasing the remaining hostages “would end the famine right away?”  Isn’t it at least as likely that once the hostages have been released Netanyahu will destroy the remaining Palestinians?  [/quote]

Exactly, that's why Israel has rejected most of the hostage deals and why they don't care if the hostages starve or get killed by indiscriminate bombing. The goal has always been to wipe out Gaza and resettle and the justification for this can only occur so long as there are hostages. Not a very a very complicated or difficult concept to see. [/quote]

The WSJ article about the young men starving and digging their own craves has made it hard for me to sleep tonight. As are the images of starving children. I can’t believe what these people are doing to each other. I came to this forum because I wanted to hear how anyone can believe in a God that is letting these things happen.[/quote]

God is not letting these things happen anymore than we are- He gave human beings free will and we have collectively decided that it is ok for this sort of thing to happen. There is famine and mass murder in Sudan right now as well. 
human beings are responsible for this- we have agency and responsibility and we choose this for ourselves. I don't know why people think belief in God means human get to be lazy and expect some supernatural force to come and save them- NOONE is coming to save us, we have the tools to save ourselves, God gave them to us both through our our own reason and intellect and through His messengers, that is the help that He gave us. [b]we[/b] choose to do violence to ourselves, [b]we[/b] choose to take more than we need, [b]we[/b] choose to live immoral and unethical lives. and then we  cast all responsibility for cleaning up the consequences of our own actions and choices on God. He's not a janitor- make a good and moral choice and own your own decisions- He gave you that power, use it.  he also has told human beings that he isn't swooping into save us and that we have to own our own mess, so why are you expecting something different from the Master of the universe- He doesn't need us, this isn't Zues or Tinkerbell- God existed when there was a great Nothingness and He will exist after everything is gone.

we can choose to reject this suffering, we have that power and we have chosen to be better than we were before many times, we can do it again. 
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