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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]About time we end this unconstitutional nonsense.

The Civil Rights Act was also super clear on nondiscrimination based on race.

A ever complicated multicultural society like ours must be race blind. [/quote]

Nice goal but we aren’t there. [/quote]

As evidenced by all of this backlash against 'DEI'. 
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DP.

Agree we aren't there and need to get there.

But I think DEI/AA are absolutely terrible ways to accomplish that goal. In fact, I think they contribute to preventing us from ever getting to an equal opportunity/race blind society.

So I 100% disagree with your conclusion about what the backlash against DEI "proves".[/quote]

Let's see what this backlash reveals about many Americans: 
1. People are assuming that DEI means "black". 
2. People are assuming that DEI means less qualified. 
3. People would prefer to tear down our country vs. keep DEI.

We are not there yet, as evidenced by the backlash to "DEI". 
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1. Sloppy argument. DEI programming grew exponentially (literally) in response to the murder of George Floyd. This is the reason that many associate DEI primarily with “Black”—because it was widely adopted in response to a Black man’s murder.

2. DEI *sometimes* has been used as a factor in hiring/promotion/admission decisions. Not surprising that this creates resentment. Americans generally hate any perception of unfairness (see the nepo baby backlash or the “dad donated a library to Harvard” or “boss’s nephew” jokes that have around since the beginning of time.

3. Hate Trump and agree that he’s tearing the country down, but disagree (a) that DEI was the primary reason he was elected, and (b) that his voters were consciously making any such tradeoff.

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DP.

1. It means any underrepresented minority. 
The goal is equality of outcome.

2. DEI definitely means less qualified.  Perhaps not unqualified but definitely less qualified.  It's not the only group of less qualified people being selected but racial discrimination has the added characteristics of being unconstitutional.

3. I hate trump too but he is right about a few things.  But even the things he is right about, he is doing in the worst way I can think of.  A lot of it is illegal.  [/quote]

“Definitely “? Really, it takes more than your random anonymous unsupported opinion to pull of “definitely “.  Many of us really have had to work twice as hard to get half as far.  I’m chuckling thinking about how lost some of the front facing “good fit for our culture “ legacy brats would be without a lot of help from so-called “DEI” hires working hard behind the scenes, and often covering up for frat boys in over their heads.  If hiring were really merit based things would get very interesting. [/quote]

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