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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've read this entire thread, and the only part I see atheists speaking for all atheists is stating that atheists believe in science rather than fairy tales. It is disingenuous to say that atheists in this thread (or this forum) try to speak for all atheists. Just seems like another way the religious folk try to beat down anyone who doesnt believe like them - "othering" atheists. Annoying and transparent. [/quote] Science and religion are not diametrically opposed. It's not a "science rather than religion" dichotomy and setting it up as such shows a lack of understanding of religion.[/quote] They just don't exist in the same space at all. One is based on reality and the other in supernatural forces. Religion has been used to explain scientific phenomena for millennia. As we make more scientific discoveries, the need for religion becomes smaller. [/quote] You're speaking as if the only thing "religion"* does is try to explain natural phenomena when a huge chunk of "religious" teaching is about human interaction with each other and with the physical world. Which scientific discovery lessens the need for the lessons of "honor your father and mother" or "treat others as you want to be treated" or "love your neighbor as yourself" or "whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity"? Many scientific discoveries can help us be better stewards of the earth, which is another common "religious" ideal. The need for these religious teachings is not diminished because we now know how evolution works and we can study astrophysics and we can use medical science to detect cancer. It's debatable whether "religion" is necessary to learn these lessons or not, but the idea that "religion" is going to become obsolete because science will answer all of life's questions is just not true and, again, betrays a misunderstanding of "religion." [i]*I use "religion" in quotes throughout, because it's ridiculous to generalize ALL religions into one category, but for the sake of the point you're trying to make, I will play along. The theological examples I quoted come from Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.[/i][/quote]
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