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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The MAGAs politicizing this tragedy are truly disgusting.  Why do you hate your fellow countrymen so much just because they vote for democrats?[/quote]

Agree.  As a democrat who grew up in North Carolina, the country really came together in empathy for those who lost homes and businesses.  It's very sad to know that apparently the only real Americans are those who live in red states.  Those in blue states don't merit our compassion.[/quote]

Of course there is compassion. There’s also recognition that there were colossal policy errors in that democrat run state that contributed to this.[/quote]

Ignoring flood zone warnings in red states is not a colossal policy error?[/quote]

Whataboutism isn’t an argument. Start a new thread if you want to debate flood zones which affect both red and blue states. This is a thread about California.[/quote]

The point was that there are criticisms to be made of politicians in both states.  But making them while people are still in danger is tacky.[/quote]

This isn’t a thread about red states, it’s about California, so start your own if you want to debate that. But if you click on a thread entitled “oh California”‘on a POLITICAL board then guess what, you’re going to find discussions about how government actions contributed to the disaster. Move along if it’s not a discussion for you. By the way these debates are on dcum and just about editorial page of every major newspaper similar to how we discussed Katrina and Lahaina.[/quote]

My political point is to say that this conversation is an example of how the lack of compassion for those different from you has poisoned our nation's culture.  Also, it is helpful to look at how our former political mores are being violated by the day and we don't even notice.  If having that conversation (which, by the way is being had in mainstream opinion pages) is uninteresting to you then maybe you should stick to talking to people who think like you.  Here at DCUM, there are pesky liberals around so if you don't like us, buzz off. [/quote]

It’s not lack of compassion to point out errors by Newsom and California administrators that contributed to the disaster. That’s what you consistently aren’t getting. [/quote]
It's difficult to take you seriously when mainstream conservative political thought sees fit to advance comepletely bullshit theories about this. [/quote]

It’s ridiculous to take you seriously when you are more interested in pointing fingers at republicans who literally have no influence in the state rather than finding out why the palisades reservoir was empty, why firefighters are saying they have no water in their hoses, why LA’s firefighter budget was slashed by $18 million, why insurance companies were prevented from projecting future losses in their premium calculations, why California had insurance companies walking away from the state altogether (they obviously understood the risk!), why Newsom cut the wildfire budget by $101 million, and on and on. Of course Americans are sympathetic to the loss of homes and life! But we need to stop these boneheaded actions because California will always have fires due to its topography and landscape.[/quote]

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