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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where are you seeing 8-6? I mean if that’s the case then Fridays off for everyone! I’ll gladly do 4 tens if that’s the requirement. Otherwise Vivek better come up with some OT for the entire federal govt. Seriously, this guy is an idiot. [/quote]

The plan is for a 50 hour workweek without OT.  See paragraph six:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ramaswamys-jackhammer-chain-saw-plan-force-federal-workers-back-office-rcna180732[/quote]

So he wants a 50hr work week without paying people for ten extra hours worked? Got it lol [/quote]

Again, if you are a salaried FLSA exempt employee, like a lawyer or an accountant or a manager/supervisor, you work when your employer wants you to work.  There are no "extra" hours.  [/quote]

I’m a lawyer under a CBA. Our hours are closely tracked. I go over 40, I get credit or OT. I have tried to work an extra 20 minutes in the past without doing the paperwork and had my hand slapped and been forced to go back and get CHs for the extra.  They do this because of the CBA.

Also, I’ve been 100% remote since COVID (was 60% remote before) but do have productivity metrics I meet.  I work for SSA. Martin O’Malley was our Commissioner until her resigned over Thanksgiving.  On his way out the door, he signed a CBA with AFGE covering 42,000 employees that gave the unions their wish list, and locked in telework at current levels through 2029. And a 40 hour workweek, must get credit or OT if I go over. Very limited conditions where OT can be mandated.  CHs cannot be mandated.  Love that guy.  Seriously, he was the only decent Commissioner we’ve had as long as I’ve been there. We are usually under “Actings”. Sad to see him go.

Maybe Musk can undo this, but it’s going to be tough because it covers so many employees in so many positions— from field office secretaries in Alabama to the call center to the payment centers to hearing office staff to attorneys in the DMV and everything in between. And each class of employees needs to be dealt with separately, because there are different rationales for reopening the CBA for each. And because we gave up something like 80% of our DC based space when we went full remote (SSA is Baltimore based, so most of our space isn’t here). And a lot of FO space all over the country. They can begin to get everyone back in.

Just straightening out us and getting us in would be an enormous job and take more than 4 years. And we are an agency where they don’t want people quitting. We are at our lowest staffing levels in the last 40 years, with obviously bunch larger caseloads given the Boomers. Our backlogs are insane and they are in crisis mode, detailing anyone who is willing to deal with the worst of it.  Red staters get upset about people dying waiting for SSI or not getting retirement because of a screwup,  which is happening now in some states. And our programs are very complex and take time to learn. They need every employee they can get.

So yeah— good luck with that.

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/12/ssa-afge-reach-deal-lock-current-telework-levels-until-2029/401501/

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Why do you think they care AT ALL about the CBA?  What is the union going to do if they start ignoring parts of the CBA?  Strike, nope, illegal...  Federal unions are a political entity not a labour market entity, and they have zero political capital in current landscape.[/quote]

They have a legally enforceable contract. They sue. And during litigation, there is typically an injunction to maintain the status quo. [/quote]

The same judges that gave the Prez unlimited power. [/quote]

Getting to SCOTUS can take years. In the meantime, federal disputes should first go through the DC Circuit which is relatively liberal. [/quote]

Collective bargaining disputes do not go to the DC Circuit.[/quote]

NP and I posted about that upthread and didn't get a response.  Isn't it correct that you have to grieve to the agency first and then go to FSIP and those decisions are not appealable?[/quote]

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