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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I just had a chance to watch this and have a few questions to those who believe it presents facts: 1) do you accept that people of both Jewish and Palestinian descent share common ancestry from the Caanites who lived in the region prior to both the Jewish and Islamic faiths existed? If not, who you think that the ancestors of Palestinians are from”invaders”? 2) if you accept the U.N. designation of Israel’s borders when it was created, why do you not accept the current UN mandated border for the state of Israel. [/quote] Because that’s what it is to be a Zionist. Arrogantly picking and choosing what suits them. You can apparently be an atheist who suddenly picks and chooses parts of the Bible you agree with and ignore the rest. And more audaciously, ignoring life before the Bible or religion; that’s some chutzpah from an atheist. That’s why Maher has always been pathetic and a clown along with the countless other high profile atheists who all seem to be rabid Zionists as well. When people say he mocks all religions, that’s bullsh*t. He specifically mocks only the Jews who follow the Torah and say Israel is not even supposed to be created until the Messiah comes. People need to really question their own intelligence if they thought this stupid segment sans any actual debate (like every single time he bloviates on this topic) was “fact-based.”[/quote]You are a perfect example of someone who doesn't want peace in Israel/Palestine. People who think like you have rejected peace again and again over the last 50+ years. And it comes from your societal norms. Where is Palestine's Gandhi or MLK? Do you have any peacemakers? [/quote] NP. Palestinians don’t need to kiss your ass. The nerve of you. Personally, I have no horse in this race, and I wish both Israeli and Palestinians would ride off into the sunset, but the idea that Palestinians owe you peacemaking is bananas. You stole their land and are committing genocide against them. The only they owe you is the same in return. [/quote]The Palestinians could live in a peaceful prosperous nation if only they didn't listen to people like you. There certainly are far right extremists on the Israelis side, just like the far right Arab extremists like you. This is a battle between far right extremist warmongers. I wish there were actual gen Z on this thread to witness that.[/quote] Israel has never once adopted a peaceful posture toward the indigenous people they violently displaced to create their nation state, including before 1948. Not once.[/quote] Twenty years after Israel gave up Gaza to the Palestinian Authority. They STILL can't make their own fresh water and generate their own electricity. Why is that? It's gotta be someone else's fault, right? Can't possibly be their own.[/quote] Actually, you are right. It was not Hamas that prevented electrical and water projects. It was Israel who placed an embargo on Gaza. Ironically, the last desalination plant in Gaza was just forced to close, leaving Gaza without a water supply. Hamas didn't do that, Israel did. Right now Israel is ethnically cleansing northern Gaza. Forcing hospitals containing orphaned children to empty. Forcing people out of their homes and then killing them when they flee. Then, bulldozing the houses. Yet I suppose that Bill Maher history lesson explains why this is acceptable and should be funded by Americans. [/quote]The siege of Gaza isn't acceptable at all. But the lack of infrastructure development in Gaza is due to Hamas focusing on revenge rather than prosperity. Israel actively blocked imports, but Gaza has other allies and a border with Egypt. The UN is focused on ending the war. Let's hope for that, but let's not blame Israel for every problem that Gaza has created for itself.[/quote]
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