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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]He's not going to win their votes so he is just using them to play to his base.[/quote]

I don't think it's working because the interviewer isn't there to clean up his messes for him. Like, most Americans know that people died at the insurrection, since Fox News tried to pin those deaths on Biden. Without a sympathetic interviewer to gently remind/correct/hand him the talking points, he just sounds crazy. [/quote]

I mean most people have heard the oft repeated claims about the “deadly insurrection”. But 3/5 deaths were from natural causes. One was a drug overdose, and the other was an unarmed protester/rioter.

The police suicides.. I can see how stress is a contributing factor but I really don’t think it’s intellectually honest to try and tie them directly to Jan sixth.

Just like how there’s always mental health warnings on media that includes talking about suicide, and just like how schools generally try quietly acknowledge a student who took their own life—because it’s documented that there can be a social contagion aspect. For instance in San Antonio in 2022 5 officers also died of suicide within a span of seven months. It’s sad and i’m not trying to downplay that.

I just think most people who are willing to think critically and do research understand that there’s been a large politicization and somewhat dishonest framing of how “deadly” the capital riot actually was. [/quote]

FU. There were officers who lost eyes and fingers. How would YOU feel if you got caught up in a crowd that made you lose an eye or a finger? Seriously, please answer that question. Would you just shrug and say oh well, at least no one died?  You'd be mad as hell. You're dishonest if you say you wouldn't be. Losing a part of a body is forever.

And the officer who died of a stroke - no way that was not induced by the riot. And please. If there's a rash of suicides after a traumatic, violent event (have YOU ever been in a situation where there were hundreds of marauders smashing and breaking things around you and you feared for your life?) you can absolutely tie those to that violent event.

You sound like one of those mealy-mouthed Mike Johnson/Mike Pence types, pretending to be oh so rational and calm and yet you are peddling dangerous nonsense.[/quote]

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