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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.[/quote] I knew this post was coming... It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school. [/quote] So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings? [/quote] It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation. [/quote] Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation. [/quote] Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.[/quote] Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful? No one is saying that.[/quote] [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/WDj1SbN"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/YDwGvz4/IMG-1671.jpg" alt="IMG-1671" border="0"></a>[/img] Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote. Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.[/quote] You know darn well they are not talking about the secular laws (that also happen to be commandments) against murder, fraud, and theft. They are talking about worshipping a particular god, not having idols (some religions do and those are allowed to be practiced in the United States of America), and keeping holy a particular faith's sabbath, even though they may be of a faith with a different or no sabbath. In any case, this is clearly unconstitutional and won't last.[/quote] That’s your opinion. I hope it lasts, because I work in a school and the students are being failed by their parents grievously. It’s truly sad.[/quote] How will slapping something on the wall in your classroom help your students, or their parents?[/quote] Are you an educator? Please, if you are not, get your teaching degree and certification and help teach kids. There’s a massive teacher shortage. It would be great for people like you to enter the classroom and help educate kids.[/quote] DP... That TOTALLY didn't answer the question. Again, how exactly will slapping a poster of the Ten Commandments help students?[/quote] How does it hurt?[/quote] By making kids who believe in different religions or no religion feel like outsiders. I would love to see the reactions from the MAGAs if a Hindu teacher put up the Yamas and Niyamas in her classroom. Or better, if a Muslim teacher posted some quotes from the Quran. [/quote] Because the 10 Commandments are only for Christians, non-Christian people will feel like outsiders because they believe murder, theft, lying, etc, should not be forbidden?[/quote] The substance of the commandments is not what is at issue here. It's the idea that your book of fairytales should not only be treated as fact, but that everyone must be governed by it, despite the fact that our country was founded on religious freedom. The Bible has been used to justify countless atrocities. It has no place in a public classroom aside from studying it as a curiosity of history and literature. [/quote] The Bible (from Koine Greek τὰ βιβλία, tà biblía, 'the books') is a collection of religious texts or scriptures, some, all, or a variant of which are held to be sacred in Christianity, Judaism, Samaritanism, Islam, the Baha'i Faith, and other Abrahamic religions. The Bible is an anthology (a compilation of texts of a variety of forms) originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek. These texts include instructions, stories, poetry, and prophecies, among other genres. The collection of materials that are accepted as part of the Bible by a particular religious tradition or community is called a biblical canon. Believers in the Bible generally consider it to be a product of divine inspiration, but the way they understand what that means and interpret the text varies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible No secular educational institution teaches that the Bible is a book of fairy tales. They define it as wikipedia does above. You don’t have to believe the Bible, but you are being disrespectful, as many other people do believe the Bible. Show respect for the beliefs of others. Your beliefs are not made better or stronger because you disparage and mock the beliefs of other people.[/quote] I'm not going to show respect to Christofascists. [color=red]People that keep their religion to themselves, where it belongs, don't get mocked. It's the ones who won't shut up about it [/color]and who want to turn it into governing law that are rightfully being mocked and disparaged. And I'm going to do it until the madness ceases, so buckle up. [/quote] Well. You are anti-American, because America was founded on religious freedom. Americans don’t have to “keep their religion to themselves. “ That is something you want Americans to do, because you are an anti-theist who hates religion and believes it is bad, but that’s not at all what our laws support. You need to move to an atheist country that has state mandated atheism if you would like to live in a religion free country. You will not be able to experience a life that is free from other Americans expressing their religion, just because you hate religion. Really, what do you expect? For your personal hatred of religion to affect the rights of other Americans to freely practice their religion? You are displaying the same intolerance and contempt towards people that you say Christians display, but I don’t see a single a Christian here displaying any intolerance to non-religious posters or posters with different religions. I highlighted your anti-American statement. If you don’t like people having personal freedoms, you are really living in the wrong country. That’s a you problem. [/quote] The Founding Fathers founded this country on a concept of freedom of religion which means a.) there is no state religion and the state can not and should not push religion on people, b.) you are free to practice your religion and c.) I am free to NOT have YOUR religion pushed on me. You are free to practice your religion at your home, your business, your church et cetera. But you are NOT free to use taxpayer-funded schools, government offices and similar spaces to proselytize others. [/quote] Anti-theist stay at home moms/ unemployed neets always fancy themselves constitutional scholars. [/quote] If you think it's an incorrect understanding of the Constitution then step up and point out exactly where in its Articles the Constitution incorporates, references or enshrines the 10 Commandments in law. [/quote] I can’t argue with the dcum anti-theist Constitutional scholars. They have spent years googling laws and posting about their opinions on r/atheism. [/quote] You don't help your cause at all with your ad hominems and meaningless memes. Don't you think responding on the merits would be a more effective appraoch to your argument?[/quote]
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