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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are already plenty of incentives. The problem is the grass is always greener, but at least there's no shortage of new teachers to fill in for the unhappy ones who leave.[/quote]

Exactly.  They get really good benefits and there are housing programs already.  And after the first few years the pay is decent to good for a ten month employee and they get tuition benefits for a masters or PhD.  [/quote]

And yet we can’t keep teachers in the classroom. Here we are commenting on a thread about how to incentivize people to stay in the profession.

TEACHERS know that the benefits aren’t worth the agony, but DCUM is here to tell teachers that their jobs are amazing. We’ll keep pretending that the teacher shortage isn’t a thing.

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I am an MCPS employee. I know the benefits are great and my pay is not bad. I am a few years away from retiring with my full pension and I am leaving at the end of the school year. The stress and constant changes and demands are no longer worth it. I handed in my retirement papers and feel like the weight of the world has been lifted from my shoulders. [/quote]

Congratulations! I took 3 years off when my children were younger. The stress, fatigue, and anxiety melted away. I forgot how bad it was, which is why I came back. I won’t be making it much longer and I’ll be kissing full pension goodbye. I don’t care. It isn’t worth my health and happiness.

The posters who love to remind us about the amazing benefits haven’t actually tried the job. The benefits aren’t worth it. At all. [/quote]

Teaching isn't the only difficult job in the county.  Lots of difficult jobs in social service for example.  But, you work 10 months, we work 12 months.  You get a pension, we don't.  You get far better health care than we do, etc.  So, yup, try changing jobs to what others do.[/quote]

Do you work 65-70 hours per week? Teachers do, and that is why they are getting out. The pension isn't enough because the pay isn't enough. [/quote]

I’m not PP, but, yes, I work 65-70 hours a week. I don’t get paid overtime. I only get 7 federal holidays. I get paged and work on my days off, which are limited. I don’t get good healtcare coverage from my work, but it’s not bad. This is standard in technology. However, I am paid way more than teachers in my present job. That said, at the beginning of my career, I worked even over 100 hours a week and even 36 straight hours before, and I got paid only barely more than my wife, who was a teacher. She’s no longer teaching, but still in the general field. She makes more, but not much more than if she had remained a teacher.[/quote]

So the teacher in your relationship quit. That’s the point of this thread. What would she have needed to stay on as a teacher? More pay? More of a work/life balance? More respect? More supportive / useful admin?[/quote]

The point was the pay and benefits are good and better than many other jobs.  [/quote]

And yet the teacher on this scenario quit, so the pay and benefits clearly aren’t that great. Sure, she may have stayed in education somehow but she isn’t a teacher. And we are extremely short on teachers.

So if the point was that pay and benefits are good, then using someone who left the classroom as your example isn’t very useful.[/quote]

It just goes to show that despite the great pay and benefits that the grass is always greener somewhere else.[/quote]

Exactly. So teachers are quitting. They are finding that the grass is always greener outside the classroom. We continue talking to our coworkers who have quit. They report higher pay, less stress, more respectful bosses, and more time with families. So more of us follow them. [/quote]

And, that's ok.  Many of us have been in similar situations with jobs and choose to leave.  The county isn't any better to work for in similar positions.  For me, my entire salary would have gone to child care so it wasn't worth working at a job I was miserable at.  [/quote]

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