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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Liberal women.  So miserable, it’s understandable why abortion is your only issue. [/quote]

I find it odd that as a woman, I am supposed to ignore everything except "women's issues" like abortion. I'm a lot more affected by crime, border security, and the economy than I am by abortion. I just don't believe that the average woman is having so many abortions that it's the only issue they care about. [/quote]

It goes way beyond abortion. But you know that and are playing dumb.

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Your right, it also goes into them insisting that we all become "yaassss queen" types that never marry, never have kids, and devote ourselves exclusively to working and buying frivolous things. All while telling ourselves "I live by my own rules, for my own happiness" while all mysteriously being super similar. There's a reason they want us to view the right to not have kids, and to abort the ones we have, and it's not because they care about our "rights."  Seriously, squint a little bit at the garbage they are feeding you.  Look at rates of happiness among women, and the trend lines of antidepressant and anti-anxiety medication use. You are not the primary beneficiary of your abortions. [/quote]
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Where are “we” being “fed” this? [/quote]

Hmmm, lots of places but just one example: Woman of the Year (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/13/us-tiktok-trans-activist-woman-of-the-year-award-bud-light-boycott) Dylan Mulvaney's recent song release, entitled "Days of Girlhood" definitely glorifies self indulgent, horrifically bad decision making. It even glorifies the resulting mental illness:

Monday, can't get out of bed
Tuesday morning, pick up meds
Wednesday, retail therapy
"Cash or credit?" I say, "Yes"
Thursday, had a walk of shame
Didn't even know his namе
Weekends are for kissing friends
Friday night, I'll ovеrspend
Saturday, we flirt for drinks
Playing wingman to our twinks
Sunday, the Twilight soundtrack
Cues my breakdown in the bath

Read more at: https://www.lyricsrolls.com/days-of-girlhood-lyrics-dylan-mulvaney.html

Or watch the video if you're skeptical that people are literally promoting a single, non family focused lifestyle so that you'll need pharmaceuticals just to get out of bed, and they want you out of bed so you'll overspend. This message is literally everywhere, from Charlotte being the most boring friend on Sex and the City to patron Saint of perpetual dating Taylor Swift.  Go ahead, tell women that their most sacred right is to being able to terminate the potential for a family, eg, the potential for what all data and science points to as the actual root of human happiness. But lots of people aren't buying it. It's one thing to believe women should have the right to abortion in limited circumstances for health or even lack of maturity (before 16 weeks). It's different to promote it as a status symbol, a la Lena Dunham telling interviewers that she wishes she had an opportunity to have an abortion:  https://time.com/4608364/lena-dunham-wish-abortion-comments/

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Taylor Swift singing about a relationship ending is promoting abortion as a status symbol?  That is a twisted view.  Listen to  different singer or watch a different show than girls if you don't enjoy them.

And if you want to have a large family have as many babies as you want.  That is your choice and it is respected.  What is not respected is you forcing your decision regarding having a child in someone else.   That is not your place.[/quote]

I've said nothing about large families. What I'm talking about is the relentless promotion of being single (or if married, quick to divorce) as a sort of religion, in which abortion is a sacrament. And then hen-pecking heretics like me who suggest that actually, having an abortion isn't my most sacred right. In fact, I'm fine with reasonable regulations on abortion, [b]like no late term abortion. [/b]There's a reason that this went from being a pro choice position to a prolife position, and that's because the abortion cult demands absolute fealty, and any suggestion that abortion might be a morally fraught issue that demands careful consideration is considered a mortal sin. You aren't protecting women by demanding that they view abortion as something that should be celebrated as a right of passage. You're actually degrading women by denying that this is, to the vast majority of people, a difficult moral conflict between the right of self determination and the moral indecency of abortions being entirely unregulated. As for "don't force your choices on me," we do this all the time. I can't kill a bald eagle, for example, because of its symbolic value to America. We do make judgments about the value of life all the time, and codify them into law. I'm not going to be a vacant eyed femcel that wants nothing but to be able to have abortions. You do you but don't force your lack of values on me. [/quote]

No one will argue with you on this point, but there should be exceptions, when the fetus is no longer viable or the life of the mother is at risk, you know, Roe.

There aren't women who have vanity late term abortions. That is a right wing fantasy.[/quote]

And yet femcels demand we support the right to this supposedly fantastical scenario. Why? Because you demand fealty. This isn't about empowerment. You want to tell people they aren't allowed to have views that abortion might be morally permissible in any way, in any scenario. [/quote]

If you aren’t my doctor then you don’t get to have opinions on my medical care.

Stop forcing yourself on women. [/quote]

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